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11th March 2008

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

It's the start of Cheltenham today which is the last big meeting of the Jump/Chase season.

I actually don't like big meetings, but I thought I would have a go at picking a few winners but this is just for fun. I am not the greatest form reader in the world that is why I choose to use systems, but here goes anyway....

14.00 Rippling Ring
14.35 Noland
15.15 Sizing Europe
16.00 Flying Enterprise
16.40 Kilbeggan Blade
17.20 Ashkazar

Good Luck!


Grrrr and double

We had another loser on the lay test system yesterday. Please note though David has not lost because he is still stopping at the first winner and up at least 12 points since we started showing you these selections a couple of weeks ago because he hasn't had a loser since we started but we have had 2 now.

Losers are useful though because they give us ideas and allow us to analyse if we have missed anything and yesterdays has certainly given us "food for thought" as there is a common element from all 3 losers we have had, but we need to use that information to go back over our other results and see how it effects them.

We only actually lost 17.67 because of what we had already won, and after winning on the next selection we are only down £11.20, but that is all last weeks work down the drain, but I am confident this will work and I am surprised we had two losers so close together.

2.30 Plum: Rinnwood Lass EP 11.5 (I got 8.60) 4th 13/2
Pot 1 now stands at £42.33
3.00 Plum: Poseidons Secret EP 9.8 (I got 7.80) 1st 11/2
Pot 1 now stands at - £-17.67
3.40 Strat: Pretty Star EP 11.5 (I got 9.80) 4th 7/1
Pot 1 now stands at £-11.20

Sorry I didn't get a screen shot of the bot, but here is my BF account.

3.00 South: Whitcombe Flyer EP 14.00

I have been saying that I think that the "Lay test system (or maybe back)" near the bottom of this email should be come a back system and I think again I have proved this with yesterdays result.

So I think I am going to change it now and show it as a back system. It does need some more testing but I would rather show it as a back system than a lay system now, although if you are aggressive enough I suppose you could make a profit from laying, but I would prefer to develop it as a backing system and see how a staking plan could make it more profitable, especially as it is making a profit at level stakes.

We are coming up to the end of the Jump season (Cheltenham marks the end) and will be heading into a month of turmoil so it will be interesting to watch how it performs over the next 1 or 2 months and if the flat season makes a difference.

Anyway I am going to rename it to "Back Test System" and hope this isn't going to be is downfall!

Just one more thing, when I first started testing this system someone emailed me and said "a system can only be a lay system or back, it can not be both!". Well I don't know about you but I think we showed that is not actually true and a system you think works best one way can actually work the other as well and although I think in this case it is a better back system, if you are brave enough to use a staking plan and can handle 3 or 4 losers in a row then this could also make a good lay system as well.

Guest Selection
I have a couple of guest selections lined up for you.
The first is from "Wrightyoh"

"After reading and studying numerous laying guides and ideas I have come up with a system using the racing post forecast favourites. In a nutshell this is done by comparing the forecast favourite with the other runners and trying to find at least two other runners that have a good chance of beating the forecast favourite. I am not just looking at negative factors for the favourite but comparing these factors against the other runners. The races I select need to have 7 runners or more for the sake of probability and are usually hcps. "

Wrightyoh is testing two systems but there won't on always be selections.

Sys 1.
16.55 Sedg, Chabrimal Minster EP 2.34
Sys 2
No bet.
Remember these are "Lay" selections.

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Roy's Naps

Selection 1: 2.00 Cheltenham Rippling Ring - (Nap) Lay
Selection 2: 3.00 Southwell Copperbottomed - Place (Nap)

Roy's Nap's

Malcolm's Selections
Best Lay of the Day
16.30 Plum, Victree 3rd 4/1

Today: 15.30 Sedge, Bob's Dream

Please Note: The lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the selections for this tip.

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The Lay Betting SystemAdvantages of owning the system:

1) Pick more than one race a day
2) Make a selection later in the day (normally more choices)
3) Password protected forum so you can talk to other owners.
4) UK or IRE races
5) Bonus Systems and regular updates.
6) Now on V4
7) 3 systems, 1 for flat 2 for Jump/Chase
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9) Now includes Lay Place System.
10) Now includes AW System
11) Now includes the Investment System
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Place System: Started 20-11-2006

This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 70.26
Points new system (30/07/07) + 32.8

14:20, Taunton, Rosie´s Glory EP 2.26 (*) 4th

15:00, Southwell, Whitcombe Flyer EP 3.4 (*)
17:05, Southwell, Swindon Town Flyer, EP 3.8 (*)
17:40, Southwell, Note Perfect, EP 3.00

(*) No bet under new system idea


Back test system
Started 13/12/2007. We orginally tested this as a "lay" system but I felt the results were better suited to a "Back" system and so that is how we are now testing it.
£10 stakes.

Level Stakes
£36.81(after 5% commision) Started 25/01/2008
Using a staking plan similar to CashMaster, started 11/3/2008 after a win on the 10/11/2008.
Bank £0.00

15:40, Strf, Native Coral EP 3.2 1st 3/1

15:15, Chel, Sizing Europe EP 3.65

Remember this is just a test and we are paper testing laying these selections.

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