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12th December 2007

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

First of all I set myself a limit of the maximum odds I will take. Now you have to look at the tips because if the average odds are 25/1 but you will not bet over 20/1 then you will really limit yourself.

I tend to take the average odds as a good starting place then I get a bank of say £200 and split this into 10 which is £20 a bet.

As I said I start of by cheating and I bet below £2.00 on betfair if I have to.

So I take my £20 and divide it by the available odds.

So lets say we only had 24.00 available.

20.00 / 23.00 (24.00-1) = 0.87

So my bet is 87p.

Ok I know this is small and hardly worth it but I am using this to get me used to the odds and the bets. I could change any of the figures and after every winning day you can re-calculate your bank so to have a bit more to work with.

Also by using such a small part of your bank for liability you have some spare if you have a loser.

Another trick I try is, if the odds are higher than I want to take then I will put a bet into the market anyway. You will be surprised how often you can get a match even though the odds don't reflect the price you asked for.

So what do we do if we lose?

As Psycho said in his article although you could have 2 losers in a row at these odds it is very unlikely but it is more likely that you will have a few if not more winners before your next loser.

So you now have 3 choices.
1. Re adjust your stakes based on the loss
2. Ignore the loss and take your next £20 and see if you can make up the loss before the next one, which is likely.
3. Introduce a loss recovery idea.

Now any loss recovery idea at these odds are going to be dangerous so you need to really be careful.

Here is how I do it...

First of all I decide on a figure that I feel represents a number of wins in a row I am likely to have.

Now going back to our example of The Almost Certain Nap.

It was the 11th May this year after 147 selections we had our first loser.

Loss at 148
Loss at 177
Loss at 187
Loss at 195
Loss at 250
Loss at 306
Loss at 344

The worse case scenario above was 7 wins in between two losers, which is a good place to start.

We could use 7 races to try and make up the loses knowing that we are likely to have a run of 7 before the next loser if not more.

This is still a risky strategy and you may want to take a lot higher number accepting that along the way you may lose a bit more but somewhere along the line you should get a long enough winning run to make it up.

Whenever I am dealing with selections like this I know that it is going to be difficult to make 1000's in returns, but they do make nice investment selections and I can normally do far better than the banks can offer, which you need to offset the risk involved.

A reader named Gary.
These are for laying, I do suggest people only do this on paper for the moment, since it is still in testing. However results have been very positive so far, it has had 1 or 2 bad days, but has recovered them quite quickly:

11.19 Hall Green BAGS Scouser Fran 2
11.34 Hall Green BAGS Stormy Mia 2
11.48 Hall Green BAGS Look Out Kid 5
12.04 Hall Green BAGS Jumping Queen 4
12.18 Hall Green BAGS Templewood Black 1
12.27 Newcastle BAGS Jason And Rodger 3
14.03 Newcastle BAGS Yonnas Journey 2
14.47 Hove BAGS Cushie Kay 2
15.58 Oxford BAGS Clear Tone 3
16.18 Oxford BAGS Sober Rocket 2
17.07 Hove BAGS Canadian Kitty 5
17.44 Hove BAGS Black Precious 1
17.58 Hove BAGS Allwhite Mona 4
18.11 Hove BAGS Raithby Stumpy 3
18.39 Sunderland BAGS Maryville Tess 3
19.11 Sunderland BAGS Mays Blackie 3
19.58 Sunderland BAGS Mackem Bonny 4
20.09 Belle Vue BAGS Pioneer Doll 4
20.31 Sunderland BAGS Farloe Dragon 1
20.47 Sunderland BAGS Fleeced Ed 3
21.17 Sunderland BAGS Tapachula 3
22.3 Sunderland BAGS Market James 5

There is no staking involved just level stakes.

2. Guest Selection - Brian's and Graham's win tips.
Brian and Graham's win tips are shortish priced but very consistent.

No selection

Here are today's (win bets)
1430 South DART betfair 1.64
1820 Kemp DOCTOR ROBERT betfair 4

3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 55.48
Points new system (30/07/07) + 19.89

12:00, Southwell, My Kaiser Chief EP 2.6 5th

13.00 Soutwell, Little Finch EP 2.4 (*)
13:10, Leicester, Arthurs Dream, EP 3.00 (*)
14:10, Leicester, Roznic EP 2.74 (*)
20:20, Kempton, Strut The Stage EP 2.06

(*) No bet under new system idea
4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal: 13:20, Sedgefield, Ten Carat 3rd 7/2
Pts 2007: -0.10
Top Choice:  13:00, Southwell, Quiet Times 75pts 3rd 8/13
Pts 2007: +0.70
Bank =622.99

Normal: 13:10, Leicester, Earlsfield Raider
Top Choice: 14:30, Southwell, Dart 100 pts

(we are trying an experiment with the Top Choice selection and the points are based on where we are in the staking plan. 25pts is the level stakes bet and we started with a 500pts bank on the 22/06/2007)
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6. "Best Lay of the Day" - Lay Betting System Bet
14.50 Sedg, Fakima PU 10/3

Today: 14.40 Leic, Zorro De La Vega

Please Note: The lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the selections for this tip.

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3) Password protected forum so you can talk to other owners.
4) UK or IRE races
5) Bonus Systems and regular updates.
6) Now on V4
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7. Today's sponsor tip
Triple Treats

Triple -Treat: 2.30 South, Dart (back)
Use the second favourite (next shortish priced) before the off as the lay.

Backing & Laying (tip 1)
Race:12.40 Leic
Back: Downs Folly
Lay: Leoplod

Staking: All Systems.
40% of your normal stake on the back and 60% on the lay.
If you normally stake £10 then put £4.0 on the back and £6.0 on the lay

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8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System started 07/11/2006.

Sorry no more Greyhound Selections after 6 months of testing!
If you subscribe to the Grey Horse bot then you can still load the session file in.

Or there are still a few copies of the system left.

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Have a good days racing.


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