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16th April 2008

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

We have a few more "New Lay Test" selections today so I am hoping we can make up a bit more ground., especially if we can get some good prices.

I mentioned yesterday that I was playing around with a staking idea with greyhounds yesterday and so far it seemed to go quite well but it will need a lot more work.

I am actually taking the idea that Greyhound favourites do not win that often, but you can have runs where you may get 3 or 4 winning. So with the new Excel function in GHB I can play around if all sorts of ideas depending on results and how much has been lost.

To me this is one of the most exciting features we have added to GHB in some time and along with other Auto settings it's giving me the chance to play around with plenty of idea.

We are hoping that we can officially launch the new version of GHB today.
Darren from the Betting School.


I know a lot of people dismiss multiple type bets as bad value and just for suckers. I though the same for a long while but my eyes have been opened to the potential of these bets over the last few years by the expert writers that we employ at the Betting School.

Of course for the football pro's it wasn't so long ago that they had to bet in multiples in the bad old days before Betting Exchanges.

Both Tony Gibson and Michael Wilding have proposed a closer look at multiple bets in recent articles and it is plain to see that there is value to be had. When you combine together value bets you multiply that value.

Recently Michael shared the calculation for working out value odds for Exacta bets. With the Exacta you have to find the first two home in the correct order. It's a bet that I've not tried to win with since my days at the greyhound track where the track tote was my only involvement.

Of course by design these bets are going to be at higher odds and so losing spells will be longer before the win comes in, but to offset this more than one bet can be made in each race as long as the value remains.

The steps to success are...

1. Create your own odds line or use one from a trusted source
2. Calculate the value odds according to your odds for the Exacta
3. Combine with more alternatives if there will still be value.

There is plenty of free information for all three steps available online. So my message today is investigate different types of bets that you may have discounted previously.

You can register for a free sample copy of the Betting School Insiders Report at:

New Lay Test

4.50 Nott: Coin of the Realm EP 26 2nd 18/1 (we got 26)

2.35 Newm: Asaint Needs Brass EP 14.5
3.55 Bev: Keisha Kayleigh EP 14.5
4.20 Newm: Yahrab EP 15.00
4.30 Bev: Dubai Petal EP 4.9
7.50 Wolv: Mujahope EP 12.00

Pot 2 now stands at £-164.11 (Target £70.00)
New Greyhound Lay system I had come up with.

After some thought I think that the only way to run this system is as a "Stop in Profit". I am going to keep the maximum odds set to 6.00 and I am going to be a little naughty and add in a lay ladder staking plan.

Easy day again yesterday

I will start showing all selections now but please remember that some of the late races may not appear on Betfair.
11:19, Nott, Threeinabed
14:08, Crayfd, Southeast Zero
15:07, Crayfd, Sailbythestars
15:58, Sund, Kiel Major
16:47, Crayfd, Shes Some Class
16:57, Sund, Durham Lady
17:56, Crayfd, Crossfield Okee
18:04, Sund, Oklahoma Timmy
18:04, Sund, Sir Knight
18:56, Sheff, Rooster Revenge
19:06, Hove, Wigwam Woman
19:11, Sheff, Miss Mandy
19:37, Hove, Beat The Bullet
19:53, Hove, Humming Heiress
20:14, Sheff, Alchemist Wish
20:19, Newc, Dornans Rocket
20:24, Hove, Blakes King
20:36, Newc, Geordie Tom
20:57, Hove, Ballytag Rose
21:22, Newc, All Jazzed Up
21:33, Sheff, Clash Fizz
21:.4, Newc, Bold Willy Allen
22:23, Sheff, Kirstys Pie
22:23, Sheff, Pillow Powder

Here are today's

11:03, HGrn, Break Off
12:47, HGrn, Jenson Berry
12:58, Newc, Stobysbesthoncho
14:08, Hove, Keanos Droopy
14:47, Hove, Winfield Rose
15:58, Oxfd, Spike Preview
17:22, Hove, Maui Makena
18:11, Hove, Physco Sis
19:58, Sund, Bears Jill
20:24, BVue, Ashpit Rouge
21:07, Swin, Danesford Wish
21:31, Sund, Swanson Yok

Please remember this is a new test and there are no rules yet.

Guest Selection
Andrew lays

No tips yesterday

16.30 Bev, William Blake EP 1.93

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Comments for today: Possible lay tips are a little thin on the ground today so I will have to settle for the evening racing. Shunkawakhan finally got his head in front last time and although he is not the most likely candidate to follow up he is several pounds better off than JUZILLA and has more ticks in the right boxes.

Nap (Lay) Selection 1: Wolverhampton 19:20 JUZILLA

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Malcolm's Selections
Best Lay of the Day
16.30 War, Moheebb 3rd 10/3

Today: No nap today.

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Place System: Started 20-11-2006

This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 71.08
Points new system (30/07/07) + 29.10

14:30, Warwick, Fuaigh Mor EP 2.84 (*) 1st
15:00, Warwick, Right Price, EP 3.0 (*) 7th
16:30, Warwick, Cheshire Prince, EP 2.06 (*) 7th

17:40, Beverley, Brave Boogie, EP 2.8 (*)

(*) No bet under new system idea


Back test system
Started 13/12/2007. We orginally tested this as a "lay" system but I felt the results were better suited to a "Back" system and so that is how we are now testing it.
£10 stakes.

Level Stakes
£42.23 (after 5% commision) Started 25/01/2008
Using a staking plan similar to CashMaster, started 11/3/2008 after a win on the 10/3/2008.
Bank(staking plan) + £45.02 (no staking as we are in profit)
16:20, Nott, Jaser EP 2.38 1st 6/4

Today. 16:20, NmkR, Kandahar Run EP 2.54

Remember this is just a test and we are paper testing laying these selections.

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