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17th October 2007 2007

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

Readers Reviews
There are a lot of new systems appearing at the moment which always worries me because I just wonder, if a lot of people just see our industry as a place to make a quick buck.

One that I have been getting a lot of emails about is Laying Confidential, in fact many of them have been concerned about the results that you have to give you email address to get. It appears, allegedly, that they are showing betfair prices that are under SP.

I know of one site owner who keeps good records who has emailed them regarding this and still waiting for a reply. He has had many of the same selections that they have published but he feels there are a few discrepancies in the prices they are showing.

Results apart I would like to hear from anyone who has purchased the system to let us know what they think.

With the amount of advertising they are doing I am sure there are a few of you out there who have purchased it, so please don't be shy let other readers know what you think.

Carrying on our discussion about our bank.

I had an email from a reader called Ian yesterday and he sent me his own bank and staking ideas to share with you.

"1. If I am in the early days of a new laying system I try to increase my stakes at half the rate of increase in the bank, in order to progressively reduce the risk. For example, if I have a £100 starting bank and lay 5%, when the bank becomes £105 my next lay would be 5% of £102.50, i.e. £5.13; if that wins my new bank is £110.13 and my next stake is therefore 5% of £105.07 and so on. I have ignored commission for simplicity in these figures but I do take it into account for real. Naturally it’s all done by spreadsheet!

2. I don’t use a loss recovery method for backing systems, but I do for laying systems. If I have a losing lay bet I add a proportion of the loss to the next few bets, but I am embarrassed to say that it doesn’t follow a prescribed formula, I just use whatever proportion gives me increased stakes which are not too high. This method is still in the early stages so I aim to refine it so that it becomes more of a formula. My thoughts at the moment are to link the proportion to the system’s strike rate in some way."

Thanks Ian we appreciate you sharing this with us.

Slightly different again to what we have seen from others and in a way a very good compromise which means Ian can grow his bank but at the same time use some of the winnings to increase his buffer.

More tomorrow...
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2. Guest Selection - Brian's and Graham's win tips.
Brian and Graham's win tips are shortish priced but very consistent.

14.50 Newcastle COLLECTION betfair 1.74 1st 4/9
17.10 Leicester PLAVIUS betfair 2.66 9th 9/4

Here are today's (win bets)
1710 Uttox CALGARY BAY betfair 3.3
1920 Kemp FUNSEEKER betfair 2.86

3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 50.64
Points new system (30/07/07) + 18.21

15.40 Leicester, Chantilly Tiffany EP 2.6 (*) 4th

15.15 Wetherby, Gringo EP 2.18

(*) No bet under new system idea
4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal:  14:50, Newcastle, Collection 1st 4/9
Pts 2007: +3.49
Top Choice:  14:50, Newcastle, Collection 75pts, 1st 4/9
Pts 2007: -0.36
Bank =671.74

Normal:  15:55, Lingfield, Aide Memoir
Top Choice: 15:35, Uttoxeter, Earlsfield Raider 50pts

(we are trying an experiment with the Top Choice selection and the points are based on where we are in the staking plan. 25pts is the level stakes bet and we started with a 500pts bank on the 22/06/2007)
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6. "Best Lay of the Day" - Lay Betting System Bet
17.40 Leic, Teodora Advina 1st 4/1

Today: No Selection

Please Note: The lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the selections for this tip.

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The Lay Betting SystemAdvantages of owning the system:

1) Pick more than one race a day
2) Make a selection later in the day (normally more choices)
3) Password protected forum so you can talk to other owners.
4) UK or IRE races
5) Bonus Systems and regular updates.
6) Now on V4
7) 3 systems, 1 for flat 2 for Jump/Chase
8) Owners get free updates
9) Now includes Lay Place System.
10) Now includes AW System
11) Now includes the Investment System
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7. Today's sponsor tip
Luv 2 Lose

Comments for today: I am siding with Master Nimbus in this one despite his penalty for last Saturdays win. Our pick has not raced for some time and is still a deal heavier than ours.

Nap (Lay) Selection 1: Wetherby 15:15 SIR BOREAS HAWK

Stop at a Winner (lay)
Selection 1: Lingfield 17:00 DREAM OF FORTUNE
Selection 2: Kempton 20:50 POLYQUEST

Luv 2 Lose

8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System started 07/11/2006.

Sorry no more Greyhound Selections after 6 months of testing!
If you subscribe to the Grey Horse bot then you can still load the session file in.

Or there are still a few copies of the system left.

9. Ace Naps - (Back Tip)

Ace Nap (back tip)
This is selection method David and I are testing at the moment, there are not many tips but when there are they seem to win a lot.
Yesterday's Selection.
No Selection Friday

No Selection Today.

Please remember as always, this is a test.

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Have a good days racing.


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