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18th April 2007

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

I had another go at some more trading yesterday with the Grey Horse bot.

I was unlucky enough to have one trade not matched on the last race  but that is £1.00 profit it over two days.

Of course the trick to trading is to have more greens than reds as I did yesterday. I think I will try adding 1 more tick today to see if I can improve profit. I should quickly be able to see if it makes a difference if the amount of successful trades drop.

I have mentioned before that I am considering to do a weekend seminar to talk about betting, trading and bots but I really want to get a feel for the amount of people who would be interested.

I was thinking of having the Saturday for complete beginners and then moving on to Sunday to talk about more detailed ideas.

The seminar could be held in Swindon but I may consider going to Birmingham or maybe even further.

Although I haven't made up my mind about pricing I am considering £100 a day with a discount for those who attend both days. There will probably be a maximum of 30 seats. I want make the weekend personal and any more than that number would make it difficult to get to know everyone.

If you think you would be interested could you just send me an email just to let me know and if there are conditions like travelling or price let me know as well.

I would be grateful for any feedback.
Could you please put.
"I am interested in your seminar"
In the subject line of the email.

2. Guest Selection - started 23-10-2006
These are lay test selections from Thomas.

HiPro86 - do not lay above 9.0 at Betfairs layside

Warw 1500 - Catshow - 2nd - SP 7/1 - Betfair 9.0 - WON
Nott 1520 - Willow Dancer - 5th - SP 25/1 - no bet
Nott 1550 - Zahour Al Yasmeen - 13th - SP 18/1 - no bet
Warw 1700 - Madaarek - NR

win/place selections
Exet 1540 - Alina Rheinberg - 2nd - SP 9/2 - Betfair 1.97pl - WON +0.94
Exet 1640 - Tsar's Twist - 5th - SP 5/2 - lost -3

here are todays selections:

HiPro86 - do not lay above 9.0 at Betfairs layside

Newm 1400 - Arabian Gulf
Chel 1455 - Liverpool Echo
Chel 1605 - Noisetine

Win/Place selections - 1pt for Win and 2pts to Place (total outlay = 3pts)
Beve 1410 - Sawwaah
Newm 1545 - Sander Camillo
Chel 1715 - Boychuk

The concept is to always place 1 point to WIN and 2 points to PLACE on the same horse. So, there is a risk of always 3 points if the horse does not place at least.

Thomas is recording all Betfair prices 30 sec before the off.

3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 15.77

14.20 Nottngham, Al Muheer EP 2.52 3rd
14.30 Warwick, Piece Of My Heart EP 2.18 1st
14.40 Exeter, Indigo Sky EP 2.2 3rd
15.30 Warwick,  Best Of Gold EP 2.42 7th
15.40 Exeter,  Red Society EP 2.1 4th
16.20 Nottingham, Officer EP 2.12 8th
16.40 Exeter,  Bite Un Fight EP 3.6 1st
17.00 Warwick, Homes By Woodford EP 2.56 6th

15.55 Beverley, Sumi Girl EP 2.48
16.05 Cheltenham, Misty Dancer EP 2.16
16.20 Newmarket, Massive EP 2.1
4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal: 15:00, Warwick, Spanish Ace 1st 15/8
Pts 2007: - 0.62
Top Choice: 15:20, Nottingham, Transcend 150pts 2nd 2/1
Pts 2007: -4.44
Bank = 299.99pts

Normal:  14:10, Beverley, Sawwaah
Top Choice: 17:50, Cheltenham, My Turn Now 200pts
(this could wipe us out!)

(we are trying an experiment with the Top Choice selection and the points are based on where we are in the staking plan. 50pts is the level stakes bet and we started with a 500pts bank on the 11/04/2007)
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6. "Best Lay of the Day" - Lay Betting System Bet
16.50 Nottingham, Crisey Brook 1st 6/1

Today: 15.55 Bev, Ten A Penny

Please Note: The lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the selections for this tip.

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7. Today's sponsor tip

Comments for today: Looks like only two to look at in todays only selection. I take Artdeal to win this.

Nap (Lay)
Beverley 14:45 RUNSWICK BAY


8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System started 07/11/2006.

After playing around with selections I have decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I think I have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I suspect there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what that will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort to record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks (*) are from the original and tighter system, I am not using these now.
Udate. I am now stopping at the first winner and changing my stop loss to £16.00 although I think this may be to high and we should also stop at the first loser and call it a day. Only time will tell.

Perry Barr BAGS, 11.57, Big Difference, 2(*) 4th 6/1
Nottingham BAGS, 12.04, Yort, 4(*)  5th 9/2
Perry Barr BAGS, 12.27, Upton Rogue, 3 6th 11/4
Perry Barr BAGS, 12.58, Monkspath Evie, 5(*)  2nd 3/1
Perry Barr BAGS, 13.27, Goulane Ketchup, 5  1st 4/1- LOST
Crayford BAGS, 15.07, Kilcullane Girl, 3(*) 6th 7/2
Crayford BAGS, 15.28, Clohur Cross, 3 3rd 9/2
Sunderland BAGS, 15.38, Knockmant Echo, 5 6th 5/2
Crayford BAGS, 16.08, Trumpers Maggie, 1 2nd 9/4
Crayford BAGS, 16.48, Tuttles Polly, 4  3rd 7 /2
Sunderland BAGS, 18.04, Tornaroy Tracy, 3 1st 5/2- LOST
Sunderland BAGS, 18.18, Leaha Draoi, 3 3rd 4/1
Newcastle BAGS, 18.28, Ninas Daylami, 4 2nd 3/1
Sheffield BAGS, 18.39, Billys Rebel, 3 1st 7/2- LOST
Hove BAGS, 18.49, Ocarolans Road, 5 6th 6/1
Newcastle BAGS, 19.01, Clips Ruby, 6 5th 5/1
Sheffield BAGS, 19.11, Inca Slippy, 6(*) 5th 5/2
Sheffield BAGS, 19.27, Paramount Bev, 6 5th 4/1
Hove BAGS, 19.53, Monkspath Kiki, 5 3rd 5/1
Sheffield BAGS, 19.58, Bunny Face, 5 2nd 5/1
Sheffield BAGS, 20.14, Stepaside Swift, 1 2nd 4/1
Hove BAGS, 21.12, Raithby Roger, 2 5th 3/1
Sheffield BAGS, 21.17, Magna Fortune, 2 3rd 7/2
Newcastle BAGS, 21.22, Commander Jack, 6 6th 6/1
24 selections 3 lost (screen shot)
( I did actually win on the first race, but I was doing some tests, so it looks a lot worse than it was)

Here are today's.
Newcastle BAGS, 11.11, Uncle Tom Macvey, 1
Newcastle BAGS, 11.42, Meadowvale Game, 5
Newcastle BAGS, 12.12, Kung Foo Freddie, 1
Hall Green BAGS, 12.18, Tuttles Bluebell, 5(*)
Newcastle BAGS, 12.27, Mutarazi, 5(*)
Newcastle BAGS, 12.42, Datona Elegance, 4
Hall Green BAGS, 12.47, Gotoon Stunner, 5
Newcastle BAGS, 12.58, Grapsys Imy, 2
Newcastle BAGS, 13.27, Whistling Tasha, 2
Hall Green BAGS, 13.51, Eleven Plus, 4
Newcastle BAGS, 14.03, Unusual Lass, 6
Hove BAGS, 14.08, Fizzy Nectar, 2
Oxford BAGS, 14.57, Droopys Marcello, 3
Oxford BAGS, 15.17, Sooty Fire, 4
Hove BAGS, 15.28, Time To Leave, 4
Oxford BAGS, 15.38, Farloe Priceless, 3(*)
Hove BAGS, 16.48, Ebony Chaser, 3
Oxford BAGS, 16.57, See You Later, 1
Hove BAGS, 17.07, Foggits Woods, 2
Hove BAGS, 18.11, Crescent Everest, 5
Romford BAGS, 18.33, A Hint Of Mint, 6
Swindon BAGS, 19.06, Thrice Engaged, 3
Sunderland BAGS, 19.43, Mill Major, 6
Sunderland BAGS, 19.58, Drominboy Tekapo, 5
Swindon BAGS, 20.07, Into The Mist, 6
Swindon BAGS, 20.22, Gijo, 4
Swindon BAGS, 20.37, Jasons Turbo, 4(*)
Romford BAGS, 20.41, Caden Lane, 3
Sunderland BAGS, 20.47, Playboy Buster, 6
Swindon BAGS, 20.51, Jalalapur, 5(*)
Romford BAGS, 20.57, Clap The Throw, 4
Sunderland BAGS, 21.02, Nametab Kiwi, 6
Swindon BAGS, 21.07, Doom Bar Boy, 3
Romford BAGS, 21.44, Setrans Flyer, 5

Download the session.xml here (normally available by 10am mon-Fri)

Normal daily settings.
Stake 2.00
Stop Win: 2.00
Stop Loss: 16.00
running loss -20.00

I set the Grey Horse bot price range from 1 -7.

9. Millionaire's Row - Win Selections started 13/11/2006

This is a win system (test) that me and a friend have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him select every morning so although we created the system together he is the one really refining it. Click Here to see the results so far.
You can now get these selections Saturday by signing up here:

Yesterday: (5h April)
Daily Double
14.10 Exet: Millennium Accord EP 3.15 3rd 10/3 /Nodforms Victoria EP 2.5 2nd 1/1
Points -8.72

Daily Back Nap: (stared 15/02/2007)
No selection
Points -1.78

Double Take (started 22/03/2007) (£6.00 on the lay £4.00 on the back)
No Selection
Back =
Lay =
Winnings to date = £25.57

Millionaire Double Selection.
2.45 Bev: Artdeal EP 2.6 /Runswick Bay EP 3.15

Millionaire Daily Nap
3.45 Newm: Sander Camillo EP 1.51

Millionaire Double Take: 40pts Win /60pts Lay 2nd Favourite
5.50 Chelt: 
Back:  My Turn Now EP 1.88
Lay:  My Immortal EP 9.6

The idea is to to back the favourite and lay the second best priced horse before the off.
We are hoping that most of the time the lay should not change but if it does then it is always the best priced horse (lay side) after the favourite.
Our stake will be £10 split 4.00 on the back and 6.00 on the lay. Of course you could do this how you want but we suggest you put slightly more on the lay to cover any loses on the back bet because we feel the lay will lose far less often.

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Have a good days racing.


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