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21st March 2007

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

>I had quite a few email's yesterday about backing and laying two horses in a race and what was interesting is that most of you found, that it was just a break even situation.

Some had tried over a short period of time and others over a lot longer period but still it was always break even.

I don't know the details of each test but to think we are going to do any better would be arrogant because some of the people who wrote are professional gamblers themselves, so they certainly know what they are talking about.

Still...I can not resist a challenge even if it is just to see what the results are like. So I still plan to show these very soon,

One thing that has bothered me is staking and how much to put on each selection, bearing in mind that the back side is probably going to be odds on most of the time.

My own thoughts are that you stake slightly more on the lay selections than the win selection. It is more probable the lay will come in more often than the back, allowing for profit nearly all the time if we make the lay a slightly higher stake.

I would like to hear your suggestions on that one.

On another subject Elaine (a reader) thinks that I have given up to early laying the favourites on USA races and is insist long term there is profit to be made on these races. Up to now we have been unlucky and part of the problem maybe that we are stopping to early, so I will probably revisit these selections soon.

Here are yesterday's results.
Greyhound Selections (8)
3 place races only (bet on favourite off) between 2.00 and 3.00
Please note that I used the staking plan with the place selections and was back into winning ways on the 3rd race.

2. Guest Selection - started 23-10-2006
These are lay test selections from Thomas.
NO BET if odds above 9.00 at Betfair

Tuesday (20 Mar 2007)
Lay (HiPro86)
Sout 1430 - Moonlight Applause - 3rd - SP 16/1 - Betfair 26.0 - no bet
Exet 1450 - Otantique - 1st - SP 15/2 - Betfair 12.0 - no bet
Warw 1610 - Aristi - 8th - SP 9/1 - Betfair 13.0 - no bet
Warw 1640 - Grenfell - 2nd - SP 4/1 (Fav) - Betfair 4.9 - WON
Exet 1650 - Flaming Weapon - 1st - SP 16/1 - Betfair 28.0 - no bet

Sout 1600 - Danelor - 2nd - SP 13/2 - Betfair 8.80/2.86 - WON +2.72
Exet 1620 - Whitenzo - 1st - SP 13/8 - Betfair 2.84/1.33 - WON +2.50
Warw 1640 - Finzi - 4th - SP 6/1 - Betfair 8.20/2.36 - lost -3

Here are todays (21 Mar 2007)
Lay (HiPro86) - No bet if odds are higher than 9.00 on Betfair

Chep 1620 - Fleurette
Kemp 1640 - Lucius Verrus
Kemp 1710 - Tasweet
Kemp 1740 - Crossbow Creek

Here are todays (21 Mar 2007) WIN/PLACE selections. 1 pt to WIN and 2 pts to PLACE

Kemp 1505 - Savoy Chapel
Kemp 1535 - Double M
Chep 1545 - Spike Jones
Ling 1600 - Coach Line
Kemp 1740 - Prime Contender

The concept is to always place 1 point to WIN and 2 points to PLACE on the same horse. So, there is a risk of always 3 points if the horse does not place at least.

Thomas is recording all Betfair prices 30 sec before the off.

3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 16.94

15.00 Soutwell, Jember Red EP2.26 2nd

16.00 Lingfeld, Bible Lord, EP 2.06

4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal: 14.10 Warwick ,  Sprosser 4th 5/2
Pts 2007: - 2.22
Top Choice: 15.00 Soutwell,  The Grey One 3rd evens
Pts 2007: - 1.61

Normal:  14.20 Lingfield, Aux Le Bahnn
Top Choice: 14.20 Lingfield, Aux Le Bahnn
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17.10 Warwick, Lorient Express 3rd 11/4

Today:  16.30  Ling  Captains Legacy

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Comments for today: Aux Le Bahnn has been out of action for over 14 months and at top weight. I would side with Blackthorn Boy to take this.

Nap (Lay)
Selection 1: Lingfield 14:20 AUX LE BAHNN

Stop at a Winner (lay)
Selection 1: Chepstow 14:40 TRAVELLO 1Pts
Selection 2: Chepstow 15:15 EBONY JACK 1Pts
Selection 3: Lingfield 15:25 GUNSHIP 1Pts
Selection 4: Chepstow 16:20 CITY STREETS 1Pts
Selections 5: Lingfield 17:00 JOLLY BOY 1Pts
Selections 6: Chepstow 17:25 BEHERAYN 1Pts

Some races are quite close together so be careful if using the GHB. Watch out for significant non-runners and be careful laying over 4.0.

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8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System started 07/11/2006.

After playing around with selections I have decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I think I have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I suspect there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what that will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort to record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks (*) are from the original and tighter system, I am not using these now.
You can see all the results since the 14th (when I introduced the latest selection method) here. I am now using what I call the "rule of 3", this means we go for 3 wins and use a 3 race scratch back to get back any losses.

Nottingham BAGS, 12.32, Ice Breezer, Trap 6(*) 4th 4/1
Nottingham BAGS, 13.51, Beechwood Voodoo, Trap 5 2nd 5/1
Crayford BAGS, 14.47, Killala Blue, Trap 1 2nd 7/2
Sunderland BAGS, 15.38, Farley Erin, Trap 2 5th 3/1
Crayford BAGS, 15.48, Rio Dynamo, Trap 2 4th 5/2
Crayford BAGS, 16.08, Leaha Rossi, Trap 5 6th 4/1
Crayford BAGS, 16.27, Glantine Kate, Trap 3 3rd 7/2
Crayford BAGS, 17.07, Meenala King, Trap 4 2nd 4/1
Sunderland BAGS, 17.17, Royston Robie, Trap 4(*) 2nd 4/1
Sunderland BAGS, 17.33, Mayfield Glance, Trap 1 3rd 6/1
10 selections  0 lost (Screen Shot)

Here are today's.
Hall Green BAGS, 11.34, Jeffys Violet, Trap 4
Hall Green BAGS, 11.48, Donnas Best, Trap 3(*)
Newcastle BAGS, 11.57, Amys Gift, Trap 3
Newcastle BAGS, 12.12, Prim Little Miss, Trap 2
Newcastle BAGS, 12.42, Springwood Aim, Trap 6(*)
Newcastle BAGS, 12.58, Flying Olive, Trap 6
Hall Green BAGS, 13.04, Undisputed, Trap 4
Newcastle BAGS, 13.27, Hillfire Jack, Trap 1(*)
Hall Green BAGS, 13.51, Jonnybo, Trap 4
Hove BAGS, 15.07, Iceman Cody, Trap 1
Oxford BAGS, 15.58, Exhilaration, Trap 3
Oxford BAGS, 16.18, Key Fixture, Trap 4
Hove BAGS, 16.48, Mohawk Magic, Trap 3
Oxford BAGS, 17.33, Common Vieri, Trap 6
Hove BAGS, 17.44, Barra Oak, Trap 1(*)
Oxford BAGS, 18.18, High St Tom, Trap 6

Download the session.xml here (normally available by 10am mon-Fri)

Normal daily settings.
Stake 2.00
Stop Win: 2.00 x 3 = 6.00 (take it down to 5.57)
Stop Loss: 2.00 x 25 = 50.00
running loss -28.00
Screen Shot of settings.

I set the Grey Horse bot price range from 1 -7.

9. Millionaire's Row - Win Selections started 13/11/2006

This is a win system (test) that me and a friend have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him select every morning so although we created the system together he is the one really refining it. Click Here to see the results so far.
You can now get these selections Saturday by signing up here:

Daily Double
14.40 War: Classified EP 4.4 2nd / Rowlands Dream EP 3.6 4th
Points -2.42

Daily Back Nap: (stared 15/02/2007)
No Qualifier
Points -2.11

Daily Lay Nap (stared 25/02/2007)
16.00 South: Kumakawa EP 12.5 3rd 14/1
Points - 10.4


Millionaire Double Selection.
14.30 Kemp: Respendent Ace EP 3.6 /Ochre EP 3.00

Millionaire Daily Nap
No Qualifier

Millionaire Daily Lay
16.40 Kemp: Methaaly EP 8.2

We dont actually think you should lay these above 7.00.

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