24th April 2007
Trading using 7 ticks didn't go very well yesterday but I
think that was partly my fault because I had more than one Grey Hound bot using
the same account and on many of the same races. That's what happens when you
spend a lot of time testing software?
Anyway I am going to give it
another go today because we made some improvements to the bot over night so I
am hoping that trading will be even better now.
As you know I find
trading an interesting subject (I have been going on about it enough), but
making money from it is not as easy as some people and e-books make
Many of the e-books I have read try to make it sound very easy but
manually I think it can be extremely difficult and I should know as I have
tried most of the systems myself.
The first place most people struggle
with is profit. Our old friend greed comes in again and this just doesn't work
with trading. Profit is Profit and if you can green it then do so and move
The other thing that can get you is not knowing the math, if you are
trading manually then you have to be able to work out your next move
I will admit I gave up ages ago manually trading, there is no
point now especially when there are so many products that will allow you to one
click a trade and green up for you automatically.
Of course bots bring
with them their own problems, they normally require a steep learning curve,
many have options that seem to need you to be a brain surgeon to understand and
others just don't do what they are supposed to.
But they are useful and
I will spend some time talking about some of them over the next few days,
starting tomorrow with Bet-Pal.
2. Guest Selection - 19-04-2007
I have been receiving some win tips from a good friend of mine called
There are two selections Best and Next best. You can look at
best only or follow both. Shaun suggest that you aim to make 5% of your bank a
day and he chases any losses onto the next selection.
I am going to
start with a £500 bank.
What you do then is take 5% of your bank, in
this case £25.00 and then divide it by the available odds and that's your
So if the odds were 2/1 then I would divide £25 by 2 making a
If I then lost I would take the £25 already lost
and add it to my next stake that is again 5% of my bank and then divide this
new figure by the available odds.
Let's see what happens.
Bank = £579.64
3:50 PLUMPTON VINMIX
DE BESSEY (BEST BET) 2nd 6/4
Lost - 18.33 ( 550 X 5% = 27.50 / 1.5
(6/4) Bank now 531.67
6:10 SEDGEFIELD THAT'S
RYTHYM (NEXT BEST) 1st 4/6 18.33 + 26.58 (5% of bank) Normally
these selections are not odds on but this one is. You have the choice to put on
just your loss and stake and take a smaller percentage winning for the day, or
put your stake up.
18.33 + 26.58 (5% of bank) / 0.66 (4/6) = 68
just going to stick to the normal stake + losses so we would have
18.33 + 26.58 (5% of bank) / 0.66 29.64 on the day.
todays.(Don't forget win bets)
5:00 FOLKESTONE JUST JULIE
6:05 BATH MILLACHY (best bet)
Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a
Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far
here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3
Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 16.47
20.05 Bath, Kyllachy Storm
15.15 Folkestone, Malapropism EP 2.42
16.25 Folkstone, Dream
Mountain EP 2.4
17.25 Southwell, Rare Coincidence EP 2.08
Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal: 18:55, Windsor,
Gyroscope 1st 5/6
Pts 2007: - 1.12
Top Choice: 15:00 Hexham, Poker
De Sivola 100pts 1st 10/11
Pts 2007: -2.72
Bank = 704.89pts
Normal: 18:50 Towcester, La Grande Villez
Top Choice: 18:50,
Towcester, La Grande Villez 50pts
(we are trying an experiment with
the Top Choice selection and the points are based on where we are in the
staking plan. 50pts is the level stakes bet and we started with a 500pts bank
on the 11/04/2007)
You can purchase this system here:
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3.30 Hex Mister Magnum 7th
Today: 4.15 South, Shot To Fame
Please Note: The
lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the
selections for this tip.
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7. Today's sponsor tip
Selection 1: 2.00 Sout - Howards Tripple 1Pts
Selection 2: 2.30 Sout -
Top Rocker 1Pts
Selection 3: 2.55 Wolv - Fuel Cell 1Pts
3.40 Sout - Mystified 1Pts
Selection 5: 7.05 Bath - Todlea 1Pts
Selections 6: 7.20 Towc - Peppershot 1Pts
Split your bank
8. Greyhound Selections- Lay
System started 07/11/2006.
After playing around with selections I
have decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I
think I have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I
suspect there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what
that will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort
to record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks
(*) are from the original and tighter system, I am not using these
Udate. I am now stopping at the first winner and changing my
stop loss to £16.00 although I think this may be to high and we should
also stop at the first loser and call it a day. Only time will tell.
Sheffield BAGS, 11.11, Dynamite John, 6 2nd
Swindon BAGS, 12.04, Radiant Lady, 4(*) 1st 6/1- LOST
Sheffield BAGS, 12.12, Giancarnacambino, 6(*)
Swindon BAGS, 12.18, Day Seven, 4 5th 4/1
12.42, Desert Lisa, 5(*) 3rd 7/2
Swindon BAGS, 13.33, Talavara Jack,
1(*) 4th 6/1
Swindon BAGS, 13.51, Thrice Engaged, 4 4th 3/1
Sheffield BAGS, 14.03, Stormy Jacko, 6(*) 2nd 5/2
14.08, Clohur Blonde, 4 3rd 5/1
Monmore BAGS, 14.47, Mineola Key, 2
Walthamstow BAGS, 18.04, Appletown Drogba, 6 4th 8/1
Nottingham BAGS, 18.28, Romeokee, 1 1st 4/1-
Nottingham BAGS, 18.48, Larkhill Ridge, 2(*) 3rd 11/4
Nottingham BAGS, 19.06, Wentworth Which, 1(*) 2nd 5/1
Romford BAGS, 19.11,
Duchess Sally, 1 6th 7/1
Romford BAGS, 19.42, Droopys Titmuss, 2 6th
Nottingham BAGS, 20.07, Take Your Point, 1 2nd 7/2
BAGS, 20.22, Benjey, 4 6th 8/1
Romford BAGS, 20.43, Cheeky Courtney, 4
Nottingham BAGS, 20.51, Tonetta Kewell, 5(*) 2nd
20 selections 2 lost (screen shot)
Here are today's.
BAGS, 11.19, Schofield Niamh, 1
Perry Barr BAGS, 11.42, Breens Best, 6
Nottingham BAGS, 11.48, Fatima Lucia Two, 5(*)
Perry Barr BAGS, 12.27, Myra
Perry Barr BAGS, 12.42, Castlebrook Lad, 2
Perry Barr BAGS,
13.12, Trumpers Basil, 1
Nottingham BAGS, 13.33, Beechwood Voodoo, 4
Perry Barr BAGS, 13.44, Monkspath Evie, 5(*)
Nottingham BAGS, 13.51, Yort,
Perry Barr BAGS, 14.03, Cons Model, 3
Crayford BAGS, 14.08, Saffron
Sunderland BAGS, 14.18, Raparee Lark, 5
14.47, Carden Club, 5
Sunderland BAGS, 15.58, Crafty Zero, 4
BAGS, 16.08, Garton Smokey, 3
Crayford BAGS, 16.27, Kalashnikov, 6
Sunderland BAGS, 16.57, Axel Lad, 2
Sunderland BAGS, 17.17, Barnham Star,
Crayford BAGS, 17.44, Leahs Lovelyeyes, 6
Sheffield BAGS, 18.56,
Billys Rebel, 5
Sheffield BAGS, 19.11, Brosnas Image, 6
19.22, Music Central, 6(*)
Sheffield BAGS, 20.13, Alchemist Wish, 3(*)
Newcastle BAGS, 21.07, Mill Abby, 5
session.xml here (normally available by 10am mon-Fri)
Stop Win: 2.00
Stop Loss: 16.00
Grey Horse bot price range from 1 -7.
9. Millionaire's Row - Win
Selections started 13/11/2006
This is a win system (test) that me
and a friend have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him
select every morning so although we created the system together he is the one
really refining it.
Click Here to see the results so far.
You can now get
these selections Saturday by signing up here:
2.50 Plum: Grouse Moor 1st 4/6 /Sett
Aside 2nd 9/2
Daily Back Nap: (stared
Double Take (started
22/03/2007) (£6.00 on the lay £4.00 on the back)
Winnings to date = £6.45
5.30 Folk: Letham Island/Doubly Guest
6.50 Towc: La Grande Villez
Millionaire Double Take: 40pts
Win /60pts Lay 2nd Favourite
Grande Villez EP 1.23
Lay: Barton Belle EP 11
The idea is to
to back the favourite and lay the second best priced horse before the off.
We are hoping that most of the time the lay should not change but if it does
then it is always the best priced horse (lay side) after the favourite.
stake will be £10 split 4.00 on the back and 6.00 on the lay. Of course
you could do this how you want but we suggest you put slightly more on the lay
to cover any loses on the back bet because we feel the lay will lose far less
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