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25th April 2007

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

Yesterday I was testing trading on the Grey Horse bot and in order to get more selections I increased my betting range to 5.00.

Now I made a mistake here which should be considered when trading and that is, your tick value should be adjusted when the odds that you are going to accept are changed.

When I first started trading with the Grey Horse Bot I had my odds range set from 1.0 to 3.00 with a 5 or 6 tick value, which seemed to work fine, apart from some teething problems we had with the bot.

So today when I increased my odds range to 5.00  then had two races where I was  matched at 4.6 and 4.7, with a tick value still set at 6.00.

This means that I would have have to get matched at 5.1 or 5.2 which is possible but not if the horse goes out an runs it's race, it is unlikely to move out that far.

Also at this price even betting 60 seconds before the off I found I either got matched before the off because the price moved out quickly or the price dropped another 10 ticks before the off, making it a big hill to climb once in running.

So what I should have done is dropped my tick value down to 1 or 2, at that level I may have got a match.

At the lower odds (1.00 to 3.00) we are dealing with a lot smaller swings and it just seems I do a lot better at that price range, especially with a 5 to 6 tick value. So that's where I am staying for a while to see how profitable it is over time.
Yesterdays screen shot.

Other bots.

Bet-Pal is a full trading bot in the sense that it will work on all betfair sports markets. It has a lot of automated features and is handy for setting up one off trades on different markets. It will work with systems like Soccer Revolution (which I am still testing) and of course a number of trading systems that are available.

Bet-Pal has a lot of automatic settings and you can do things like back and lay the field based on tick values. The one feature that it is missing is "greening up" or hedging as it is also known, but it makes up for this in other areas and there is no reason why you shouldn't learn to work this out for yourself and simply "one click" a bet.

Bet-Pal is also just a one off payment to buy the bot for life.

2. Guest Selection - 19-04-2007
I have been receiving some win tips from a good friend of mine called Shaun.

There are two selections Best and Next best. You can look at best only or follow both. Shaun suggest that you aim to make 5% of your bank a day and he chases any losses onto the next selection.

I am going to start with a £500 bank.
What you do then is take 5% of your bank, in this case £25.00 and then divide it by the available odds and that's your stake.
So if the odds were 2/1 then I would divide £25 by 2 making a £21.50 stake.
If I then lost I would take the £25 already lost and add it to my next stake that is again 5% of my bank and then divide this new figure by the available odds.

Let's see what happens.
Bank = £579.64
5:00 FOLKESTONE JUST JULIE (next best) 3rd 10/11
6:05 BATH MILLACHY   (best bet) 3rd 6/4

Here are todays.(Don't forget win bets)

3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 15.55

20.05 Bath, Kyllachy Storm EP 3.15 6th
15.15 Folkestone, Malapropism EP 2.42 6th
16.25 Folkstone, Dream Mountain EP 2.4 NR
17.25 Southwell, Rare Coincidence EP 2.08 1st

No Selections

4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal: 18:50 Towcester, La Grande Villez 1st 2/11
Pts 2007: - 0.94
Top Choice: 18:50 Towcester, La Grande Villez 1st 2/11
Pts 2007: -2.72
Bank = 713.89pts

Normal: 14:20, Epsom, Dubai Twilight
Top Choice: 17:30, Catterick, Chatshow 50pts

(we are trying an experiment with the Top Choice selection and the points are based on where we are in the staking plan. 50pts is the level stakes bet and we started with a 500pts bank on the 11/04/2007)
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6. "Best Lay of the Day" - Lay Betting System Bet
4.15 South,  Shot To Fame 3rd 7/2

Today: 6.05 Worc Classic Rock

Please Note: The lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the selections for this tip.

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3) Password protected forum so you can talk to other owners.
4) UK or IRE races
5) Bonus Systems and regular updates.
6) Now on V4
7) 3 systems, 1 for flat 2 for Jump/Chase
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9) Now includes Lay Place System.
10) Now includes AW System
11) Now includes the Investment System
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7. Today's sponsor tip

Comments for today: Mr Preacher Man looks the best horse in this race.

Nap (Lay)
Selection 1: Perth 14:30 PIGEON ISLAND

Stop at a Winner (lay)
Selection 1: Catterick 14:45 HUBBLE BUBBLE
Selection 2: Epsom 16:00 FASHION MODEL
Selection 3: Catterick 16:25 BRONZE DANCER
Selection 4: Kempton 18:20 SCARLETT HEART

We use 1% of our bank.


8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System started 07/11/2006.

After playing around with selections I have decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I think I have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I suspect there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what that will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort to record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks (*) are from the original and tighter system, I am not using these now.
Udate. I am now stopping at the first winner and changing my stop loss to £16.00 although I think this may be to high and we should also stop at the first loser and call it a day. Only time will tell.

Nottingham BAGS, 11.19, Schofield Niamh, 1 1st 4/1- LOST
Perry Barr BAGS, 11.42, Breens Best, 6 2nd 3/1
Nottingham BAGS, 11.48, Fatima Lucia Two, 5(*) 4th 5/1
Perry Barr BAGS, 12.27, Myra Pick, 5 1st 3/1- LOST
Perry Barr BAGS, 12.42, Castlebrook Lad, 2 6th 8/1
Perry Barr BAGS, 13.12, Trumpers Basil, 1 4th 7/2
Nottingham BAGS, 13.33, Beechwood Voodoo, 4 6th 4/1
Perry Barr BAGS, 13.44, Monkspath Evie, 5(*) 5th 3/1
Nottingham BAGS, 13.51, Yort, 4 4th 6/1
Perry Barr BAGS, 14.03, Cons Model, 3 1st 4/1- LOST
Crayford BAGS, 14.08, Saffron Melv, 2(*) 5th 3/1
Sunderland BAGS, 14.18, Raparee Lark, 5 6th 6/1
Crayford BAGS, 14.47, Carden Club, 5 6th 7/2
Sunderland BAGS, 15.58, Crafty Zero, 4 3rd 3/1
Crayford BAGS, 16.08, Garton Smokey, 3 5th 7/2
Crayford BAGS, 16.27, Kalashnikov, 6 3rd 4/1
Sunderland BAGS, 16.57, Axel Lad, 2 2nd 3/1
Sunderland BAGS, 17.17, Barnham Star, 5 1st 5/1- LOST
Crayford BAGS, 17.44, Leahs Lovelyeyes, 6 1st 4/1- LOST
Sheffield BAGS, 18.56, Billys Rebel, 5 2nd 4/1
Sheffield BAGS, 19.11, Brosnas Image, 6 4th 5/2
Newcastle BAGS, 19.22, Music Central, 6(*) 6th 3/1
Sheffield BAGS, 20.13, Alchemist Wish, 3(*) 3rd 9/2
Newcastle BAGS, 21.07, Mill Abby, 5 3rd 4 /1
24 selections 5 lost (Sorry no screen shot)

Here are today's.
Hall Green BAGS, 11.03, Mays Hare, 4
Newcastle BAGS, 11.11, September Love, 2
Hall Green BAGS, 11.48, Eleven Plus, 4
Hall Green BAGS, 12.18, Frankiesister, 6
Newcastle BAGS, 12.27, Hillfire Queen, 3
Hall Green BAGS, 12.47, Brookfield Blue, 6
Hall Green BAGS, 13.04, Coolygorman Best, 4(*)
Hall Green BAGS, 13.19, Tuttles Bluebell, 5(*)
Hove BAGS, 14.08, Open The Shop, 5(*)
Oxford BAGS, 15.17, Springville Lara, 5
Hove BAGS, 15.48, Stardome Rock, 3
Oxford BAGS, 15.58, Beat Machine, 2
Oxford BAGS, 16.18, Honcho Fox, 5
Hove BAGS, 16.48, Windgap Eminem, 4
Oxford BAGS, 17.33, Donnsize, 2
Hove BAGS, 17.44, Time To Leave, 5
Hove BAGS, 18.11, Redgate Vixen, 2
Oxford BAGS, 18.18, The Pantheon, 1
Sunderland BAGS, 19.11, Miles Savings, 2
Sunderland BAGS, 19.42, Brewster Bouncer, 3
Swindon BAGS, 20.07, Whiskey Tonic, 4
Swindon BAGS, 20.22, Torbal Dame, 6
Sunderland BAGS, 20.58, Kiss Your Granny, 3
Sunderland BAGS, 21.14, Wedmore Bri, 4(*)

Download the session.xml here (normally available by 10am mon-Fri)

Normal daily settings.
Stake 2.00
Stop Win: 2.00
Stop Loss: 16.00

I set the Grey Horse bot price range from 1 -7.

9. Millionaire's Row - Win Selections started 13/11/2006

This is a win system (test) that me and a friend have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him select every morning so although we created the system together he is the one really refining it. Click Here to see the results so far.
You can now get these selections Saturday by signing up here:

Daily Double
5.30 Folk: Letham Island 3rd 8/15 /Doubly Guest NR
Points -11.41

Daily Back Nap: (stared 15/02/2007)
6.50 Towc: La Grande Villez 1st 2/11
Points -1.60

Double Take (started 22/03/2007) (£6.00 on the lay £4.00 on the back)
6.50 Towc: 
Back = La Grande Villez EP 1.23 1st 2/11 x 4 =  0.78
Lay = Barton Belle (or Lady Suffragette) EP 11 = £6
Winnings to date = £13.17

Millionaire Double Selection.
3.20 Catt: Elyaadi/Love Brothers

Millionaire Daily Nap
No Qualifier Today

Millionaire Double Take: 40pts Win /60pts Lay 2nd Favourite
7.20 Kemp: 
Back:  Coeur De Lionne EP 1.89
Lay:  Ausie Cricket 11.5 (I expect this to drop).

The idea is to to back the favourite and lay the second best priced horse before the off.
We are hoping that most of the time the lay should not change but if it does then it is always the best priced horse (lay side) after the favourite.
Our stake will be £10 split 4.00 on the back and 6.00 on the lay. Of course you could do this how you want but we suggest you put slightly more on the lay to cover any loses on the back bet because we feel the lay will lose far less often.

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Have a good days racing.


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