25th April 2007
Yesterday I was testing trading on the
Grey Horse bot and
in order to get more selections I increased my betting range to 5.00.
Now I made a mistake here which should be considered when trading and that is,
your tick value should be adjusted when the odds that you are going to accept
When I first started trading with the Grey Horse Bot I had
my odds range set from 1.0 to 3.00 with a 5 or 6 tick value, which seemed to
work fine, apart from some teething problems we had with the bot.
today when I increased my odds range to 5.00 then had two races
where I was matched at 4.6 and 4.7, with a tick value still set at
This means that I would have have to get matched at 5.1 or 5.2
which is possible but not if the horse goes out an runs it's race, it is
unlikely to move out that far.
Also at this price even betting 60
seconds before the off I found I either got matched before the off because the
price moved out quickly or the price dropped another 10 ticks before the off,
making it a big hill to climb once in running.
So what I should have
done is dropped my tick value down to 1 or 2, at that level I may have got a
At the lower odds (1.00 to 3.00) we are dealing with a lot
smaller swings and it just seems I do a lot better at that price range,
especially with a 5 to 6 tick value. So that's where I am staying for a while
to see how profitable it is over time.
Bet-Pal is a full
trading bot in the sense that it will work on all betfair sports markets. It
has a lot of automated features and is handy for setting up one off trades on
different markets. It will work with systems like Soccer Revolution (which I am
still testing) and of course a number of trading systems that are available.
Bet-Pal has a
lot of automatic settings and you can do things like back and lay the field
based on tick values. The one feature that it is missing is "greening up" or
hedging as it is also known, but it makes up for this in other areas and there
is no reason why you shouldn't learn to work this out for yourself and simply
"one click" a bet.
Bet-Pal is also just a one off payment to buy the bot for
2. Guest Selection - 19-04-2007
I have been
receiving some win tips from a good friend of mine called Shaun.
are two selections Best and Next best. You can look at best only or follow
both. Shaun suggest that you aim to make 5% of your bank a day and he chases
any losses onto the next selection.
I am going to start with a
What you do then is take 5% of your bank, in this case
£25.00 and then divide it by the available odds and that's your
So if the odds were 2/1 then I would divide £25 by 2 making a
If I then lost I would take the £25 already lost
and add it to my next stake that is again 5% of my bank and then divide this
new figure by the available odds.
Let's see what happens.
Bank = £579.64
5:00 FOLKESTONE JUST JULIE (next best)
6:05 BATH MILLACHY (best bet) 3rd 6/4
are todays.(Don't forget win bets)
5:35 WORCESTER KANAD (5/2)
3. Place System (win Bet) - Started
This is a
Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far
here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3
Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 15.55
20.05 Bath, Kyllachy Storm EP 3.15 6th
Malapropism EP 2.42 6th
16.25 Folkstone, Dream Mountain EP 2.4 NR
Southwell, Rare Coincidence EP 2.08 1st
4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal: 18:50 Towcester, La Grande Villez 1st 2/11
Pts 2007: -
Top Choice: 18:50 Towcester, La Grande Villez 1st 2/11
Bank = 713.89pts
Normal: 14:20, Epsom,
Top Choice: 17:30, Catterick, Chatshow 50pts
are trying an experiment with the Top Choice selection and the points are based
on where we are in the staking plan. 50pts is the level stakes bet and we
started with a 500pts bank on the 11/04/2007)
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6. "Best Lay of the Day" -
4.15 South, Shot To Fame 3rd
Today: 6.05 Worc Classic Rock
Please Note: The lay
betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the
selections for this tip.
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7. Today's sponsor tip
Comments for today: Mr Preacher Man looks the best horse in this race.
Selection 1: Perth 14:30 PIGEON ISLAND
Stop at a
Selection 1: Catterick 14:45 HUBBLE BUBBLE
Epsom 16:00 FASHION MODEL
Selection 3: Catterick 16:25 BRONZE DANCER
Selection 4: Kempton 18:20 SCARLETT HEART
We use 1% of
8. Greyhound Selections- Lay
System started 07/11/2006.
After playing around with selections I
have decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I
think I have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I
suspect there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what
that will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort
to record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks
(*) are from the original and tighter system, I am not using these
Udate. I am now stopping at the first winner and changing my
stop loss to £16.00 although I think this may be to high and we should
also stop at the first loser and call it a day. Only time will tell.
Nottingham BAGS, 11.19, Schofield Niamh, 1 1st 4/1- LOST
Perry Barr BAGS, 11.42, Breens Best, 6 2nd
Nottingham BAGS, 11.48, Fatima Lucia Two, 5(*) 4th 5/1
BAGS, 12.27, Myra Pick, 5 1st 3/1- LOST
Barr BAGS, 12.42, Castlebrook Lad, 2 6th 8/1
Perry Barr BAGS, 13.12,
Trumpers Basil, 1 4th 7/2
Nottingham BAGS, 13.33, Beechwood Voodoo, 4 6th
Perry Barr BAGS, 13.44, Monkspath Evie, 5(*) 5th 3/1
BAGS, 13.51, Yort, 4 4th 6/1
Perry Barr BAGS, 14.03, Cons Model, 3 1st
Crayford BAGS, 14.08, Saffron Melv,
2(*) 5th 3/1
Sunderland BAGS, 14.18, Raparee Lark, 5 6th 6/1
BAGS, 14.47, Carden Club, 5 6th 7/2
Sunderland BAGS, 15.58, Crafty Zero, 4
Crayford BAGS, 16.08, Garton Smokey, 3 5th 7/2
16.27, Kalashnikov, 6 3rd 4/1
Sunderland BAGS, 16.57, Axel Lad, 2 2nd
Sunderland BAGS, 17.17, Barnham Star, 5 1st 5/1-
Crayford BAGS, 17.44, Leahs Lovelyeyes, 6 1st 4/1- LOST
Sheffield BAGS, 18.56, Billys Rebel, 5 2nd
Sheffield BAGS, 19.11, Brosnas Image, 6 4th 5/2
19.22, Music Central, 6(*) 6th 3/1
Sheffield BAGS, 20.13, Alchemist Wish,
3(*) 3rd 9/2
Newcastle BAGS, 21.07, Mill Abby, 5 3rd 4 /1
5 lost (Sorry no screen shot)
Here are today's.
Hall Green BAGS,
11.03, Mays Hare, 4
Newcastle BAGS, 11.11, September Love, 2
BAGS, 11.48, Eleven Plus, 4
Hall Green BAGS, 12.18, Frankiesister, 6
Newcastle BAGS, 12.27, Hillfire Queen, 3
Hall Green BAGS, 12.47, Brookfield
Hall Green BAGS, 13.04, Coolygorman Best, 4(*)
Hall Green BAGS,
13.19, Tuttles Bluebell, 5(*)
Hove BAGS, 14.08, Open The Shop, 5(*)
Oxford BAGS, 15.17, Springville Lara, 5
Hove BAGS, 15.48, Stardome Rock,
Oxford BAGS, 15.58, Beat Machine, 2
Oxford BAGS, 16.18, Honcho Fox,
Hove BAGS, 16.48, Windgap Eminem, 4
Oxford BAGS, 17.33, Donnsize,
Hove BAGS, 17.44, Time To Leave, 5
Hove BAGS, 18.11, Redgate Vixen,
Oxford BAGS, 18.18, The Pantheon, 1
Sunderland BAGS, 19.11, Miles
Sunderland BAGS, 19.42, Brewster Bouncer, 3
20.07, Whiskey Tonic, 4
Swindon BAGS, 20.22, Torbal Dame, 6
BAGS, 20.58, Kiss Your Granny, 3
Sunderland BAGS, 21.14, Wedmore Bri,
Download the session.xml here (normally available by 10am
Normal daily settings.
Stop Win: 2.00
Stop Loss: 16.00
I set the
Grey Horse bot price range from 1 -7.
9. Millionaire's Row - Win
Selections started 13/11/2006
This is a win system (test) that me
and a friend have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him
select every morning so although we created the system together he is the one
really refining it.
Click Here to see the results so far.
You can now get
these selections Saturday by signing up here:
5.30 Folk: Letham Island 3rd 8/15 /Doubly
Daily Back Nap: (stared 15/02/2007)
6.50 Towc: La Grande Villez 1st 2/11
(started 22/03/2007) (£6.00 on the lay £4.00 on the back)
Back = La Grande Villez EP 1.23 1st 2/11 x 4 = 0.78
Lay = Barton Belle (or Lady
Suffragette) EP 11 = £6
Winnings to date = £13.17
3.20 Catt: Elyaadi/Love Brothers
No Qualifier Today
Millionaire Double Take: 40pts
Win /60pts Lay 2nd Favourite
Back: Coeur De
Lionne EP 1.89
Lay: Ausie Cricket 11.5 (I expect this to drop).
The idea is to to back the favourite and lay the second best priced horse
before the off.
We are hoping that most of the time the lay should not
change but if it does then it is always the best priced horse (lay side) after
Our stake will be £10 split 4.00 on the back and 6.00
on the lay. Of course you could do this how you want but we suggest you put
slightly more on the lay to cover any loses on the back bet because we feel the
lay will lose far less often.
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