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27th November 2007 2007

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

Betfair's planned maintenance over ran this morning making everything late. Still it is good to see that they now do their updates earlier than they used to, akthough the time the site will be up keeps going out!

Someone asked me to explain the lay ladder yesterday, so I thought I would reprint this article for those of you who are unsure.

Try not to climb The Lay Ladder

In a previous article I wrote about your liability so I thought I would carry it on with some information about the lay ladder.

I first come across this idea when I got hold of a copy of the Bank Vault Report.

Briefly the ebook covers a stop at a winner in reverse so you stop at the first loser instead, but because you may have to go through a couple of winners to get there you still want to end up in profit.

The first thing to do is consider how much you want to win after you have a successful lay.

So let's run a couple of imaginary races so you can see how this works, we will set our profit at £10.

Race 1. We bet £10.00 at odds of 2.00 our liability is £10.00 (2.00 - 1 X £10.00 = £10.00), unfortunately for us the horse wins, so we have lost £10.00 (Betfair does not charge commission on losses).

Now we go to race 2, but we have already lost £10.00 and we want to make £10.00 when we do win.

Race 2 The favourite is trading at 1.7 so we need to bet £20.00 which means our total liability is 1.7 - 1 X £20 = £14.00 we are lucky it is a cheap bet but unfortunately for us the horse wins as well!

We have now lost £10 on race 1 and 14.00 on race 2 and we still want to win £10 so on the next race we have to bet 10 + 14 + 10 = 34.00

Race 3 The favourite is trading at 2.4 so our liability is 2.4 - 1 X £34.00 = 47.60 its third time lucky for us and our horse losses it's race, so our final stake splits down like this. 34 - 10 (loss from race 1) - 14 (loss from race 2) = £10 profit.

Unfortunately it is not quite as simple as that because now that we have won we have to pay commission to Betfair which if your new is 5% and remember you are paying it on the amount you won which as far as Betfair is concerned is £34.00

So 34 X 5% = £1.70 commission so your £10.00 profit becomes £8.30 if you had of won on the first race then the commission would have only been 50p so you must consider this when working out your next bet.

A reader named Gary.
These are for laying, I do suggest people only do this on paper for the moment, since it is still in testing. However results have been very positive so far, it has had 1 or 2 bad days, but has recovered them quite quickly:


27/11/2007 14.47 Crayford BAGS Alexandras Girl 5
27/11/2007 15.28 Crayford BAGS Questhouse Peggy 6
27/11/2007 15.48 Crayford BAGS Fandango Fayre 4
27/11/2007 17.07 Crayford BAGS Xamax Diamond 1
27/11/2007 17.33 Sunderland BAGS Autumn Moonraker 1
27/11/2007 17.48 Sunderland BAGS Market James 5
27/11/2007 18.11 Crayford BAGS Reenview Daisy 4
27/11/2007 18.18 Sunderland BAGS Bower Honcho 4
27/11/2007 18.39 Sheffield BAGS Daves Gift 5
27/11/2007 19.06 Hove BAGS Succeed 5
27/11/2007 19.32 Newcastle BAGS Bohemian Nomad 6
27/11/2007 19.37 Hove BAGS Harry Surprise 3
27/11/2007 20.04 Newcastle BAGS White Tart 2
27/11/2007 20.47 Sheffield BAGS Confident Fawn 6
27/11/2007 20.52 Newcastle BAGS Canny Corrina 1
27/11/2007 21.07 Newcastle BAGS Stay Cool 4
27/11/2007 21.12 Hove BAGS Quickasacat 1
27/11/2007 21.22 Newcastle BAGS Derryhogan Ring 1
27/11/2007 21.33 Sheffield BAGS Liberal Monarch 6
27/11/2007 22.4 Sheffield BAGS Toosey Boy 3

There is no staking involved just level stakes. I will get Gary to send me all his results so far so that we can put them in to a web page.

2. Guest Selection - Brian's and Graham's win tips.
Brian and Graham's win tips are shortish priced but very consistent.

No Selection

Here are today's (win bets)

No Selection Today.
3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 57.34
Points new system (30/07/07) + 22.85

14:20, Ludlow, Marked Man EP 2.08 2nd
15:10, Ayr, Chickapeakray EP 2.18 5th
I left the points as they were becuase it was only a win of .08

There are no selections today because the markets haven't settled enough for me to get the correct selections.

(*) No bet under new system idea
4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal:  12:30, Lingfield, Faithful Ruler NR
Pts 2007: +0.61
Top Choice:  12:30, Lingfield, Faithful Ruler 75pts NR
Pts 2007: - 0.18
Bank =569.27

Normal: 12:10, Kempton, Procas De Thaix
Top Choice:  12:10, Kempton, Procas De Thaix 75pts

(we are trying an experiment with the Top Choice selection and the points are based on where we are in the staking plan. 25pts is the level stakes bet and we started with a 500pts bank on the 22/06/2007)
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6. "Best Lay of the Day" - Lay Betting System Bet
13.20 Lud, Commander Vic 10th 15/8

Today: 15.20 Sedg , Four County Lad

Please Note: The lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the selections for this tip.

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5) Bonus Systems and regular updates.
6) Now on V4
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7. Today's sponsor tip
Bills 321 Lays

Selection 1: wolverhampton 12.50 kirsty lad*
Selection 2: 1.25 ochre*
Selection 3: 2.00 kennington*
Selection 4: 2.35 lady bower*
Selection 5: 3.10 sweet mischief*
Selections 6: 3.40 celtic strand*
Selections 7: 4.10 princely ted*
Selections 8: 4.40 sweet pickle

Staking: The rule of the 321 staking plan is subjected to the price of the horses odds on betfair or other exchanges that allow you to lay a horse. Odds 0-to 6.0 lay 3pts 6.1 to 10/1 lay 2pts 10.1 to 20 lay 1pt

Bills 321 Lays

8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System started 07/11/2006.

Sorry no more Greyhound Selections after 6 months of testing!
If you subscribe to the Grey Horse bot then you can still load the session file in.

Or there are still a few copies of the system left.

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Have a good days racing.


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