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30th October 2007 2007

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

I have seen a few systems doing the rounds at the moment that rely on watching to see if the favourites price improves before the off and if it does back it.

I wonder how wise this is and if you can actually make profit from it?

First of all why does a price shorten on a runner?

Well I suppose the most obvious is that people are putting more money on it, so the bookies lower the price to adjust for the extra payout they may have to make and the exchanges, because backers are having to offer better prices to get layers to take the bait, which is actually a very simplistic view of what's going on but more on that later.

You actually have to look at the bookies and the exchanges as two different bodies and so the reasons for prices dropping could be very different and although the weight of money could be a factor on the exchange, there are other forces that should be considered.

Let's look at it from a bookies point of view.

You have to remember bookies, especially the established ones have a lot of knowledge about racing and they offer the odds based on that knowledge, but they also have to adjust prices on the amount of money they receive and also they have to attract punters.

Now in reality at the end of the day they know as well as we do that anything can happen in a race, but there have to be occasions where they know a favourite has a lot less chance of winning that most punters think, they also know that many punters follow favourites and watch out for changes in price.

So your first question when you see the price of a favourite changing is why?

(Note: This is one of the reasons I do not like betting on Saturdays is that the weekend punters have a tendency to follow what's popular.)

Has something in the race changed?

Has a major player become a NR (non runner)?

Has the running surface changed?

More on this tomorrow but I would love to hear from you if you have a comment on this subject and would like to share it with other readers.

Sorry didn't get chance to try the Voodoo system system yesterday but I am going to see if I can today.

Don't forget you need to be able to bet all day to use this system.
TSF lay system.

Please remember this will be a lay test and we are not even sure the way we are selecting the runners will work, this may have to become a method rather than a system.

No Selections

Today's Lay selections.
No selections at all today.
My Fancy Fillies lost yesterday.

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2. Guest Selection - Brian's and Graham's win tips.
Brian and Graham's win tips are shortish priced but very consistent.

Yesterday (Friday)
1400 Lingfield Full Marks 1.5 on Betfair 4th 2/7

Here are today's (win bets)
No selection today.

3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 45.82
Points new system (30/07/07) + 15.39

14.00 Lingfield, Tepee, EP 2.96 6th

No Selections today.

(*) No bet under new system idea
4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal:  14:40, Kempton, Magic Glade 1st 4/7
Pts 2007: +7.23
Top Choice:   16:20, Leicester, Welsh Emperor 25pts 1st 8/11
Pts 2007: +2.27
Bank =768.91

Normal:  14:50, Wolverhampton, What`s For Tea
Top Choice: 14:50, Wolverhampton, What`s For Tea 25pts

(we are trying an experiment with the Top Choice selection and the points are based on where we are in the staking plan. 25pts is the level stakes bet and we started with a 500pts bank on the 22/06/2007)
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6. "Best Lay of the Day" - Lay Betting System Bet
15.20 Leic Observatory Star 5th 7/2

Today: No slection today.

Please Note: The lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the selections for this tip.

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7. Today's sponsor tip
Bills 321 Lays

. Selection 1: yarmouth 3.40 memphus man*
Selection 2: 4.10 awabulb**
Selection 3: catterick 2.00 boppies pride***
Selection 4: 2.30 distant sun*
Selection 5: 3.20 goose green**
Selections 6: 3.50 teasing*

The rule of the 321 staking plan is subjected to the price of the horses odds on betfair or other exchanges that allow you to lay a horse.

0-to 6.0 lay 3pts
6.1 to 10/1 lay 2pts
10.1 to 20 lay 1pt

Bills 321 Lays

8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System started 07/11/2006.

Sorry no more Greyhound Selections after 6 months of testing!
If you subscribe to the Grey Horse bot then you can still load the session file in.

Or there are still a few copies of the system left.

9. Ace Naps - (Back Tip)

Ace Nap (back tip)
This is selection method David and I are testing at the moment, there are not many tips but when there are they seem to win a lot.
Yesterday's Selection.
No selection

No selection Today.

Please remember as always, this is a test.

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Have a good days racing.


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