I can sometimes get it wrong…
Even after I showed them, how to set up their stake so they could get
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Even after I showed them, how to set up their stake so they could get
Cheltenham is here but I am not going to look at it like most over punters.
Here is what I mean…
I am working on a new skill. Well it’s not totally new because I have been involved in system development for over 12 years.
But I am concentrating on refining one area and that is finding opportunities to lay under 2.00.
At the moment I have a couple of systems I am developing but I am also experimenting in markets like in-play (horse racing), AvB and a couple of football markets.
So I decided to try it at Cheltenham.
I must admit I am not a great lover of these big meetings. It’s not that I don’t like the meetings themselves, they are great fun and they bring the best runners, trainers and jockeys together.
What I mean is that they seem to get so many people involved in racing that wouldn’t normally have anything to do with the sport (or very little) that it causes strange patterns appearing on the markets.
Over the years I have even seen some runners get popular just because people like the name of the horse
Add to this the fact that many trainers are pulling out all the stops to get their horses over the finish line first, they can be pretty un-predictable meetings.
I am going to test (Probably not very scientifically) lay-ing every favourite that is under 2.00 before the off, over the 4 days.
But I am going to do one other thing as well, which is use a fixed liability stake.
Anyone who has read any of my articles/reports lately will know I am have been talking about staking in this way quite a bit.
It works even better if you can get a high enough strike rate when the odds are under 2.00.
If you are following the “how to double your bank in 90 days or less…” You have probably seen where we are following separately the selections that come in under 2.00.
There are not many selections within this price range but we have had a strike rate so far of over 60%.
Add this with liability staking and it equals a nice little profit.
So I am going to set a copy of the Grey Horse Bot up in “Auto Mode” and just ask it to monitor the markets for me.
I am not even going to name the favourite. The bot will just place a bet into the market on the favourite if it is under 2.0.
So far it looks like…
Simonsig in the 14.05 (There is some support for Overturn) 1.65
Quevega in the 16.40 (There is some support for Swing Bowler or
Une Artiste) 1.8
This are both very well fancied and very highly napped so it will be interesting to see what happens.
I am not really expecting any steamers coming in under 2.0, but you never can tell what’s going to happen.
Anyway I will let you know today’s results tomorrow.
Thank you as always for reading I really appreciate it.
Malcolm
P.S. You can check out part one “How to double your bank in 90 days or less…” here.
Hi There…
I just finished writing the first months report on the7system which we opened in January.
OK, it’s not that exciting…it only made 11 points after Betfair’s commission last month and it is only averaging around 27.48 points per month.
And like every system it has up’s and down’s.
I mean if you can show me a system that doesn’t have bad days then I am going to be really impressed.
But I doubt if you can.
And this is the point I have tried to get across with the7system…
You have to look a little bit more long term than the normal 30 days.
Yes we did make profit in the first month and yes the strike rate continued as it has up to now, but you still need to think long term.
I know people do not want to hear that….What they really want to be told is…
“Make 20, 30, 40 or even 50 points profit every month…”
I know this to be true from a survey I did that asked…
“What stopped you from joining the7system?”
A high percentage of people chose the option that said…
“…I want results quicker”
Actually it would have been easy for me to do what a lot of vendors do and just play on the 27 points per month and hide the other statistics but…
….I wanted the7system to be different.
I wanted to tell people “exactly as it is” from the start.
With detailed information that will allow them to make the right stake choice and so they know exactly what could happen while following the selections.
Surely it’s better for you to stake less as long as you make a profit in the end, rather than use a stake far too high and have to give up on any chance of making profit.
I have seen that happen too many times.
Anyway I just wanted to let you know there is a report and there is a results page and last time I looked there were about 7 places left.
I don’t know…does having all the information you need to make informed decisions make sense to you?
Or would you rather me just say…
“Roll up roll up…here’s your chance to make over 27 pts a month from a simple use hands free system that just keeps making profit…”
You can read the report by clicking here.
Thank you as always for reading I really appreciate it.
Malcolm
P.S. I hope you chose the first options because you need to know the facts!
Just 12 left
Hi There
This could be your last chance.
Ahh freedom…
The right to choose…
Should I go left or right?
Should I say yes or no?
Should I have pudding or not?
Should I stay or should I go (wasn’t that a song)
Should I buy Malcolm’s Carzy sale?
Of course you should and today I am going to give you a great reason for doing it.
A Free Pass
“A what?” I hear you say.
Well I was thinking what to give away in my Crazy sale today when I thought it would be easier to let you decide.
So I am giving you a pass.
First of all you don’t have to use it straight away if you don’t want to.
But you can use it to either get one of our current products.
GHBlite
ULtraXTRADER
Take Your Pick
Or just hold on to it for a future product…you know me there will be more.
Or
You can use it for a 4 month free pass to any of our Sporting Bots services.
Mr2
The7system
Acenaps
GreyHorseBot
Inplaymaster
(Sorry doesn’t include luv2lose)
The only condition is you can not use it against a current service that you are a member of.
But if you have been thinking of getting one of our products or trying out one of our services then now you can, at zero cost.
But as I said you don’t have to use it straight away. I am not even going to be mean and say you have to use within 6 months or one year.
It’s yours use it when you want to use it, now or in a years time or even longer.
If you have already purchased my Crazy sale then the pass is already logged against your name so just email sales@bluebelldata.co.uk whenever you want to use it.
There is one more bonus tomorrow…
But I doubt if there will be any left by then so you may want to get yours now.
http://cyobs.co.uk/crazy/
2 days 4 products and only 12 left…
Don’t miss out.
Thank you as always for reading I really appreciate it.
Malcolm
P.S. don’t forget pay once today and you will still get all four
products worth over £200.
And I promise I will replace any productwith one you already have.
http://cyobs.co.uk/crazy/
P.P.S. Are you planning anything crazy this year?
If so let me know…I will give a prize to the craziest idea I hear.
P.P.P.S Anything you would like to see on this list?
Let me know if there is a product that is on your wish list…you
never know.
Hi There
Call me mad or crazy but I decided to have a go at doubling my bank in 90 days or less in front of everyone.
This is no easy task and to do it you are going to need to some very consistent systems.
So why did I choose 90 days?
I could have as easily said 1 month, 6 months or even 12 months and apart from 1 month (yeah OK no way) I think the others should be just as attractive.
Part of the problem is we live in a time when many people want everything yesterday…
If I had said “double your bank in 6 months” or in “1 year” most people would just not bother to even read the article, so I am sticking my neck out with 90 days.
But I believe I have the systems in place to do it.
The only real issue here is when systems have losing streaks. It is not unusual for them to last 30, 60 or even 90 days, so I just hope we don’t hit any long ones while we test.
You can get the free daily tips along with the results and get a Link to results spreadsheet here.
The idea is based around 3 systems…
1 x lay system
1 x Back System
1 x Place system.
On their own they have all shown to make a profit but I am hoping combined they really will help me double my bank in 90 days or less.
Each system should add about 35% to the bank over the 3 month period although it is more likely one will do better than the other two.
We are going to start with a 100 point bank.
Each system will be allocated a % of the bank as a stake but once we decided how much, it will be fixed for the duration of the test.
There are no silly recovery plans or increasing your stake after we have made some profit.
And to make it even harder on myself I will not be introducing each system straight away.
We are going to start with the lay system and then move onto the other two over the next couple of weeks.
In some ways this is the worst time of the year to start a test like this.
We have bad weather.
We are in the winter season with a lot less races which means it is not as easy to make a lot of profit and by the end of the test, we will be at the end of the NH season making selecting runners tricky.
But if you are going to set yourself a challenge you may as well make it interesting
All the results will be coming from the Grey Horse Bots that we have set up to monitor the Betfair market 60 seconds before the off.
So if you fancy following along and seeing how it goes then…
Click Here to join in and get the daily selections…
You can also get the results sheet and screenshots as we progress.
Plus…
…You can also pick up part 1 of my new “How to double your bank in 90 days or less” series which will cover every thing from selecting systems to choosing the right stake size.
Anyway I hope you will come along for the ride it looks like it could be quite interesting.
Thank you as always for reading I really appreciate it.
Malcolm.
P.S. I don’t think there are many people out there that would do this…but testing is what I like to do, so I may as well let you join in.
I have known David T. for years and have helped him with his on-line endeavours which I have never made a secret about.
For some people getting on-line is still quite a difficult task. And David has always been more interested in creating systems than doing the internet stuff himself.
Of course he asks for my advice and we often discuss the best way of getting his horse racing systems out there in to the “Cyber World”.
Acenaps.co.uk is a typical example of our collaboration.
We use the “Tipster in a Box” technology to create a website for David so that he can show people his selections.
Normally he is pretty good at taking advice from me.
And over the last few years I have certainly advised him against revealing his systems in e-books.
That’s because they always end up being sold by someone on Ebay or some other site that doesn’t care about “stealing” peoples hard work.
So when he mentioned to me that he wanted to put the selection process for “Take your Pick” into a report I advised him not to do it.
My argument against him doing this (apart from those already mentioned) was that many people were paying £37 a month to get these selections through acenaps.co.uk.
And these selections are doing extremely well, even our own testing has produced over 54 points profit in around 4 months.
But they have made far much more since David launched them.
Click Here to download my report.
In fact I would go as far to say this is one of the best systems he has come up with in all the time I had known him.
So why would he want to give away the exact selection process he uses?
To be honest his reasons seemed a bit lame to me but he is planning a big holiday this year.
Anyway I am not his boss…I can only advise him.
What really got me annoyed though was he asked me to write the information page about the system.
But an agreement is an agreement so I had to along with it.
This is a serious offer though and one you may not want to miss.
My own report proves that this system is producing a profit.
You have to admit it is very rare to be offered the step by step process to a horse racing system that is actually being used on a membership site.
But I did get David to agree one thing with me…
…And that is that this offer is limited to just 50 copies.
As soon as those 50 are sold I am pulling the plug…
No “ifs” or “buts”.
Because the longer they are on sale the more chance some unscrupulous individual will purchase this system and try to sell it themselves (beware I will be watching).
Click Here to learn more then.
Thank you for reading I really do appreciate it.
Malcolm
“The System Mason”
P.S. You should know me by now. I will put a stop to selling “Take Your Pick” when all 50 have gone.
I read once that as humans we seem to have a thing about the number 7.
Of course there are reginal variations about what it means to different cultures.
But we do seem to like the number. But there could even be more to it…
Of course we have 7 days in a week.
There are 7 notes on musical scale.
The bible (Christian) says we were created in 7 days
And of course there are the 7 deadly sins (not guilty)
Also…
7 is a neutral PH level between acidity and alkaline which our bodies like.
If you like Harry Potter then you will know that seven is said to be the most powerful magical number.
Even Shakespeare had his 7 ages of man theory (ok I looked that one up)
How about nearly all mammals have 7 vertical vertebrae (ok looked I that one as well)
Some people think you can achieve any goal with 7 years.
And did you know that there are 7 directions?
Left, right, up, down, forward, back and center.
This is actualy a very small portion of what you can find about the number 7 but I suppose one of the most popular ones (in the western world anyway) is the…
Lucky number 7.
But we have another one…
It’s around 7 months since we started tracking a system which is proving to be quite interesting (actually it’s eight but I put that down to artistic license) .
Ok a very tentative connection but it was fun finding out about the number 7…
Simple, easy and profitable…
That’s what I always here from people who want to make money from betting systems.
Simple - they just want one profitable system to follow.
Easy – no hassle way of following the selections.
And profitable (well that goes without saying)
Well I think I may have exactly what you want…
But…I am not totally sure.
I know it’s profitable
I know it’s going to be easy to follow
But what I don’t know is if this is what you actually want…
So I thought I would ask you…
hought I would ask you…
To be honest I am still getting the site together so it’s not ready yet anyway…
So if you think you would be interested in finding out more about a system that had produced about 230.97 pts over the last 8 (not 7) months.
And no, it’s not a lead into one of those big launches.
You know the ones where you end up getting asked to part with hundreds of £££’s.
I actually want to show you what we found when we started following this system on the live markets and what we learned about systems in general.
And I really only want to send the information about the system to those that are really interested in it.
So if you are then pop over here.
I will also give you the results so far and just for the fun I will dig out some more of those number 7 references.
In case I don’t get chance to email you again may I take this opportunity to wish you a very merry Christmas and a good holiday.
Thank you as always for reading I really appreciate it.
Malcolm.
P.S. You could also pop over if you just want to find out more about the number 7.
Sometimes you wonder if you will ever work out a way of getting a solution to the problem you are trying to solve.
It doesn’t matter what you try or how many different ways you try to get there it just doesn’t work.
I am sure you know what I mean.
For me it’s been the Place Market on Betfair…
This is where you win if your runner wins or comes in the top 3.
Although depending on the number of runners in the race it could be the top 2 (7 or under runners) or in the top 4 if there are more than 16 runners in the race.
Betfair also use the declared runner market when the race is formed. Which means Non Runners do not affect the number of places they pay out to but a reduction factor will still apply to prices.
So if a race has 8 runners declared but then 2 become NR’s betfair will still payout to 3 places where the bookies will reduce payout to 2.
Don’t confuse the Betfair’s place market with an each-way bet offered by the bookies because it isn’t the same thing.
The bookies do pay out if your runner wins or places but they are in effect two different bets added together and the payout will depend on if the horse wins or places.
Where as on Betfairs place market it doesn’t matter if your runner wins or places the payout will be the same.
The main problem with the place market is value…
Because the prices tend to be very keen you need a very high strike rate to make a profit which you would think would be easy with a place market but it’s actually not.
I have spent a long time analyzing this market and trying to figure out someway of making a return even if it was relatively small.
After getting some success with a couple of ideas through Sporting Bots Labs we were able to gather a lot more data through our live testing.
This led to a new experiment that we started about 4 months back which filtered out a lot of races we would normally be on.
But strangely enough where as with most of our other place systems we had to restrict the price (odds) range that we placed bets at…this new system was producing results at any price range.
Over the first 4 months test we managed to clear over 100 points while betting on every selection in the price range 1.02 to 999.
(Screen Shot from Sporting Bots Labs ID5 system)
Actually there were not many selections over 20.00 or even 12.00 for that matter…well this is the place market.
As you can see by the stats panel the average winning price was just 1.51 and we needed a strike rate of nearly 40% to make a profit but so far we have been managing around 46%.
Also you can see from the ROI (Return on Investment) it takes a lot of work to make money in the place market and even with this big strike rate we are only managing a ROI of 12%.
One of the things we like to do at SPB is check the price ranges to see if we can find something a little more profitable.
(Screen Shot from Sporting Bots Labs ID5 system)
This creates a much higher ROI indicating you could have got a much better return on your money.
The LLR (Longest Losing Run) stats are quite interesting and we are pretty sure the normal calculation for doing this doesn’t work with the place market.
You would actually think your chances of winning would be higher but as you can see in the first lot of results we exceeded the 5000 LLR and we are pretty close to it in the tighter price range as well.
Here is what the graph looked like…
(Screen Shot from Sporting Bots Labs ID5 system)
Anyway we decided to let our Grey Horse Bot subscribers check it out and have added it as a new bonus to the members area to see if they get similar results.
If you fancy trying them out why not check out the Grey Horse Bot and all the great features it has to offer.
Thanks for reading.
Malcolm
http://www.greyhorsebot.co.uk
P.S. We are running a special x-mas offer where you pay once for Grey Horse Bot and get a 1 years free subscription to Sporting Bots Labs.
Hi there
In the last two parts to this series I have tried to explain exactly what I mean by the title of this series and in this part I want to just expand on the theme of “Jumping ship” to early…
You have probably seen the following hundreds of times:
“Don’t bet with money you can not afford to lose”…
Of course most sites you come across sensibly tell you this but I guess by my own experience most people ignore it.
In reality not many people can afford to lose money…if you could you probably wouldn’t be trying to make money from sports betting.
But there is a reason you should think carefully about this statement…
I covered this briefly in the last instalment of this series and that is losing runs.
The problem with money is that it is emotional.
We all hate losing money and when we do we get pretty upset about it.
It’s made worse when sites give limited refund periods or only so long to test the selections before charging you.
Don’t get me wrong I think you should pay for someones hard work but the issue is really that your put under more pressure to make a decision because you don’t want to lose any more money than you have to.
But there is a way you can avoid this if you think just a little before signing up for tips.
You have to consider 3 things.
1. Can I really afford to do this?
2. How much will it actually cost me?
3. How much could I lose?
In many cases just by asking those 3 questions will put you off joining a service.
But what if you really want to join up and get the selections?
Here is what you should do.
1. Work out a bank you can afford to lose…even if it is only a small amount.
As long as you can bet 1pt of that bank on each selection or in the case of lay selections risk a maximum of 10pts.
2. Add the bank to what the service or tips will cost you over the next 3 to 6 months and you get the answer to 3. How much you could lose.
If you’re not prepared to lose that amount then walk away.
“But I may win?” I hear you say.
Yes you may and could but you will have your best chance of doing this if you can go 3 to 6 months and not be afraid of losing everything you have invested.
I suppose what I am trying to say is that you have to try and take the emotion out of it.
I know that’s not easy and I know people will have a go at me about it but here are some facts.
A back system (Even if it’s profitable) with a 12% strike rate will lose somewhere between 36 to 59 times in a row every 2000 selections and it will do it more than once…
Look at this.

From one of the Sporting Bots test systems
You would say that is quite a profitable system but it took 6 months and 787 selections to get where it is but look at how many losing streaks of 25 or more points (One nearly 50 points) it had to go through to get there.
The more I get involved in testing systems and the more data we gather the more I am convinced that a short term view when it comes to betting on the horses will just not work.
So I think there is one more thing you have to add to that list…
4. Do I have the patience to see it through?
Thank you as always for reading I really appreciate it.
Watch out for part 4 and how you can tell if a system is likely to be profitable or not.
Malcolm
“The system Mason”
P.S. I did a webinar with James over at BST…why not take a look.
http://www.bettingsystemtruths.com/portfolio/the-bst-portfolio/
This second part of the article has taken a bit longer to get to you than I thought it would.
You can read the first part here…
I know I owe you quite a big explanation for blaming you but I hope you give me chance to explain because there are some important points to think about.
In the first article I showed you this.

(Source Sporting Bots labs “magicsys”)
Well that has become this over the last week.

(Source Sporting Bots labs “magicsys” )
If we look at this graph you will see lots of ups and downswhich in this graph do not look that bad…do they?
But if I told you they ranges from April 2012 until October 22nd 2012 would you have a different opinion?
What if I told you this graph represented just 972 selections from a possible 3441?
And if I told you it was 160 points which worked out at about 26 points a month would you be impressed?
Would you even believe me?
Ok one last thing if you joined a service with these selections (that’s not what I am trying to get youto do) and you joined when I showed you the first graph, would you still be following the selections now…after living through the losses?
That downward dip represents nearly 40 points of losses in less than 2weeks.
It certainly worrying.
Well I can tell you from my experience of watching many services that people will give up after a losing run of 40 points
In fact many people will give up after a few points loss.
Why is that?
Well I probably don’t have all the answers…but here are a few that I know are true.
1. Wasn’t expecting to lose.
2. Lost far too much too quickly
3. Didn’t live up toexpectations.
4. Just another service that promises a lot and doesn’t
deliver.
5. Probably wont work long term.
6. Too risky.
7. Need to get my money back before the refund period ends.
As I said I don’t have all the answers but I have actuallybeen sent these in emails and I have also been sent some when a service was doing well.
Here is one I got after the service made 20 points…
“Although I realise this has been a good month and for some people this would have lived up to their expectations but this is well below what I was expecting…”
I actually didn’t know how to answer that one.
For me there is one theme that seems to run through most of the reasons why people decide to stop following selections.
And that is their Expectations.
Apart from the above lists I have also seen…
“I was expecting more tips…”
“I wasn’t expecting so many tips…”
“I wasn’t expecting the tips to be so late…”
“I wasn’t expecting the tips to be delivered like that…”
And I could go on an on…
Don’t get me wrong I realise people have different expectations from a system or service and I respect that.
And to be honest a lot of the problems are the vendors fault.
In an effort to sign you up they don’t give you all the facts and of course gloss over many of the downsides of using the selections.
But there is a way you could save yourself time and money by using a simple check list and a couple of easy calculation.
And in the next article I am going to discuss this in more detail.
But let me leave you with one thing…
Next time you are looking at the results from a system you
are
thinking of following, do this…
Look at the longest losing run…double it and then double it again.
And then ask yourself…
“Would I still be following the selections if you lost that much?”
I will tell you the answer that you should be give yourself in the next email.
And it may not be what you were expecting.
Thank you as always for reading.
Malcolm
http://www.greyhorsebot.co.uk
P.S. In the next article I will also talk more about the graph from the magic system selections.
P.P.S The magicsys selections are currently being run as a bonus to Grey Horse Bot members.
http://www.greyhorsebot.co.uk