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26th February 2008

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

I am very sorry this is so late.

I wanted to start sharing with you some lay's David and I have come up with. Again?
I hear you say.

Well yes we are always experimenting with ideas and we have been trying to come up with a system that could replace the Almost certain nap selections.

Don't get me wrong I think this service is good and provides plenty of winners but as you probably know the prices can be very high and sometimes just plain silly.

So with David's help we have been experimenting for sometime with a few ideas, some haven't worked out (as you may know) but one of two have done quite well.

What we have tried to do is come up with a selection process that gives more than 1 selection a day and although not all of them will be in your particular price range at least 1 should and normally all should be below 30, but we have still seen some go a lot higher.

Up to now we have been getting anywhere from 1 and 10 selections a day with an average of around 3.

As an example...

5.10 wolv, ginger minx I got 19.5

2.20 leicester barati EP 13.5
3.20 leicester kirbys vic EP 7.8

We also have a no bet rule if any of the significant runners are NR's this will normally be any runner that has 10% or more reduction factor on betfair.

We have also been thinking about a bank plan. Now up to now with a few months back data we have only had one loser at about 6.5, so we have had no reason to introduce a staking plan especially with so many winning selections a day. But as you probably know when you start showing selections everything starts to go a bit strange.

I thought lets take a bank of £300 and split it into 5 which gives us 5 pots of £60. We are going to lay at a maximum of 30.00 with our maximum liability being 1 pot of £60.00

So if the odds were 30 our lay bet would be £2.00 (60/30).

As I have said we have 5 pots and our goal is to create a new pot of £60 which we make from our winnings.

Our two selections today are at 13.5 and 7.8 (at about 11am) so 60/12.5 (13.5 -1) gives a stake of £4.80 and 60/6.8 (7.8-1) gives a stake of 8.82. If we win on both our new pot will contain...

4.80 + 8.82 - 5% (betfair commission) = 12.93

If and when our pot reaches £60 then we can decide to either take it out or split the pot between the other pots which increases the value of each.

This is just and idea, let' see how it goes. If I made a mistake with the maths please let me know. It has been a bit of a rush this morning.

Guest Selection

A new guest selection will be appearing here soon.

Guest: Gary's Greyhound lays not over 8.00

Sheffield - 13.27 - Trap 1 (only bet if decent price, ie. 6.0 or under) (I din't get on this one)

Nottingham - 11.34 - Trap 3

As always i suggest you don't lay over 8.

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Triple Treats

Triple -Treat: 2.20 Leic, Nikola/
Use the second favourite (next shortish priced) before the off as the lay.

Backing & Laying (tip 1)
Race:4.50 Leic
Back: Sole Agent
Lay: No Complaint

Staking: All Systems. 40% of your normal stake on the back and 60% on the lay. If you normally stake £10 then put £4.0 on the back and £6.0 on the lay.

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Malcolm's Selections
Best Lay of the Day
16.30 Here, Sharkeys Dream 6th 11/2

Today: 15.20 Leic, So Brash

Please Note: The lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the selections for this tip.

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Place System: Started 20-11-2006

This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 68.71
Points new system (30/07/07) + 25.23

15:10, Wolverhampton, Crystal Spirit, EP 2.48 (*) 2nd
15:20, Plumpton, Noble Bily, EP 2.48 2nd
16:10, Wolverhampton, Stand Guard, EP 2.02 5th

15:00, Lingfield, Young Ivanhoe, EP 2.02
15:10, Catterick, Primus Inter Pares, EP 2.08
15:30, Lingfield, Sand Cat EP 2.10

(*) No bet under new system idea


Lay test system (or maybe back)
Started (again) 15/01/2008. We are testing to see if we have a good lay system or back. £10 stakes. Please remember this is a test and a bit of fun to find out if this selection system works better as a lay or back system.

Lay - £2.50(after 5% commision)
Back + £3.47 (after 5% commision)

16:20, Plum, Aberdeen Park EP 2.82 1st 15/8

14:50, Leic, Dundridge Native EP 4.4
Now this is far higher than I would normaly except for this tip, but I want to see if it has a chance to improve the win side.

15:50, Leic, Sheriff Roscoe EP 2.28 would have been the selection at the correct price.

Remember this is just a test and we are paper testing laying these selections.

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