17th April 2007
Don't you just hate the smell of paint?
It seems to
seep into everything for a while.
I have been taking about the
Grey Horse bot on
and off for the last few weeks and the new trading option we have added so I
thought I would mention them again especially as we have also been talking
about Football Revolution which is also basically a trading
Yesterday during testing I played around with some settings
before the days racing and got this.
Yeah I know it wasn't a lot of money but I was quite impressed with 7 out
7 automated trades, totally hands off.
I set the
Grey Horse bot up to
bet on favourites between a certain price range and then to trade out at just 5
small ticks. I am going to try that one again today.
There are lots of
ways you can trade but I tend to break them down in to 3 main groups.
1. Pure trading. This is where you watch an event and trade based on prices,
volume and many other factors.
2. Risk Trading. This where based on a
system or idea you back or lay on a market hoping that it will move your way to
allow you to trade out and "green light" for profit.
3. Incidental or
opportunity trading. This is where you may have made a bet and then you see the
price move in your favour and so trade out some or all of your originally bet
to lock in profit or lessen your exposure.
Number 1 is probably the
most difficult to learn and certainly needs for you to invest a lot of time in
the fundamentals that you will need to learn to become successful. When ever I
get chance I do try to increase my knowledge of this type of trading but at the
moment my focus is in areas 2 and 3.
I suspect most of the people
reading this email will make most of their trades from 2 and 3, I know I do.
The auto trading I did yesterday was from 2 because the bot placed a lay
bet and then waited until it could trade out on the back side. If it hadn't of
been able to then my winnings or losses would have be down to the outcome of
When you are trading from 2 then I think that you have
to be more conservative with how much you can take, where as if you have are
trading from 1 or 3 you can probably look to lock in more profit.
latest version of the Grey Horse bot will certainly let you trade from 2 or 3, but
1. needs a specialist bot like.
This is one of the longer beta test we
have had but the trading part of V184.108.40.206 has needed a lot of testing. I will
be very pleased once it out on general release though because we are waiting to
add another quite substantial upgrade to the bot, in the next version.
We are attempting to open the Grey Horse Bot up to many of the football markets
as well, which should allow us to trade using many of the popular systems
So as you can imagine I am quite excited about this
but we want to make sure V220.127.116.11 is working as it should, before we start on
2. Guest Selection - started 23-10-2006
These are lay test selections from Thomas.
HiPro86 - do not lay
above 9.0 at Betfairs layside
Results of yesterdays (16-04-2007)
Weth 1525 - Wot Way Chief - 1st - SP 5/1(Fav)
- Betfair 7.0 - lost
Wind 1540 - Silver Blue - 12th - SP 12/1 - no bet
Wolv 1655 - Penang Cinta - 1st - SP 2/1(Fav) - Betfair 3.15 - lost
Wolv 1515 - Samuel Charles - 2nd - SP 11/2 - Betfair
2.62place - WON +2.24
Weth 1705 - Spring Margot - 3rd - SP 15/8 - lost
here are todays selections:
HiPro86 - do
not lay above 9.0 at Betfairs layside
Warw 1500 - Catshow
1520 - Willow Dancer
Nott 1550 - Zahour Al Yasmeen
Warw 1700 -
Win/Place selections - 1pt for Win and 2pts to Place (total
outlay = 3pts)
Exet 1540 - Alina Rheinberg
Exet 1640 - Tsar's
The concept is to always place 1 point to WIN and 2 points to
PLACE on the same horse. So, there is a risk of always 3 points if the horse
does not place at least.
Thomas is recording all Betfair prices 30 sec
before the off.
3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a
Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far
here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3
Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 13.27
16.00 Wetherby, Trading Trouble Ep 2.15 1st
14.20 Nottngham, Al Muheer EP 2.52
14.30 Warwick, Piece Of My Heart EP
14.40 Exeter, Indigo Sky EP 2.2
15.30 Warwick, Best Of Gold
15.40 Exeter, Red Society EP 2.1
Officer EP 2.12
16.40 Exeter, Bite Un Fight EP 3.6
Homes By Woodford EP 2.56
4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal: 14.40 Wolverhampton, Magic Armour 3rd 5/6
Pts 2007: - 2.49
Top Choice: 16.35 Wetherby, Brave Rebellion 150
pts 1st 1/3
Pts 2007: -3.44
Bank = 449.99pts
Normal: 15:00, Warwick, Spanish Ace
Top Choice: 15:20, Nottingham,
(we are trying an experiment with the Top Choice
selection and the points are based on where we are in the staking plan. 50pts
is the level stakes bet and we started with a 500pts bank on the
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8. Greyhound Selections- Lay
System started 07/11/2006.
After playing around with selections I
have decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I
think I have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I
suspect there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what
that will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort
to record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks
(*) are from the original and tighter system, I am not using these
Udate. I am now stopping at the first winner and changing my
stop loss to £16.00 although I think this may be to high and we should
also stop at the first loser and call it a day. Only time will tell.
Swindon BAGS, 11.03, Mountgale Gamble, 5 1st 5/2- LOST
Swindon BAGS, 11.19, Fancy Jewel, 1 1st 4/1
Sheffield BAGS, 11.42, Wellow Whisper, 3
Replaced 6th 7/1
Swindon BAGS, 12.47, Delius Venus, 2 4th 4/1
BAGS, 13.19, Talavara Jack, 1(*) 4th 4/1
Walthamstow BAGS, 14.18, Cunning
Darby, 2 5th 7/2
Monmore BAGS, 14.27, Droopys Ben, 3 3rd 11/4
BAGS, 14.47, Vineyard Haven, 5 6th 4/1
Walthamstow BAGS, 14.57, Ragga Diva,
4(*) 4th 3/1
Monmore BAGS, 15.28, Goldliner Flash, 1 1st 3/1- LOST
Monmore BAGS, 16.27, Kingdom Rock, 3 2d 9/2
Walthamstow BAGS, 16.57, Adamant Laser, 5 1st 2/1-
Walthamstow BAGS, 17.17, Droopys Deano, 2 6th 3/1
Walthamstow BAGS, 17.33, Drifting Light, 3 1st 9/4-
Walthamstow BAGS, 18.18, Blue Screamer, 4 4th 7/2
BAGS, 19.11, Galadriel, 6 4th 3/1
Romford BAGS, 19.26, Chomba Womba, 3 6th
Nottingham BAGS, 19.52, Beechwood Smugla, 5 5th 3/1
19.58, Spitfire Dan, 5(*) 1st 3/1- LOST
Nottingham BAGS, 20.07, Head It On Harry, 3 2nd 7/4
Romford BAGS, 20.28,
Aero Ivy, 5 2nd 5/1
Romford BAGS, 20.43, Ella Ella, 6(*) 4th
Nottingham BAGS, 21.07, Tiger Woofs, 2 6th 6/1
21.22, Farloe Hobbs, 3(*) 1st 5/2- LOST
BAGS, 21.29, Xaar Arapaho, 5(*) 5th 4/1
Nottingham BAGS, 21.52, Creamery
Mist, 3(*) 1st 3/1- LOST
Nottingham BAGS, 22.07,
Shelbourne Rene, 6 (*) 4th 2/5
27 selections 8 lost (Sorry no screen
Here are today's.
Perry Barr BAGS, 11.57, Big Difference,
Nottingham BAGS, 12.04, Yort, 4(*)
Perry Barr BAGS, 12.27, Upton
Perry Barr BAGS, 12.58, Monkspath Evie, 5(*)
Perry Barr BAGS,
13.27, Goulane Ketchup, 5
Crayford BAGS, 15.07, Kilcullane Girl, 3(*)
Crayford BAGS, 15.28, Clohur Cross, 3
Sunderland BAGS, 15.38, Knockmant
Crayford BAGS, 16.08, Trumpers Maggie, 1
Crayford BAGS, 16.48,
Tuttles Polly, 4
Sunderland BAGS, 18.04, Tornaroy Tracy, 3
BAGS, 18.18, Leaha Draoi, 3
Newcastle BAGS, 18.28, Ninas Daylami, 4
Sheffield BAGS, 18.39, Billys Rebel, 3
Hove BAGS, 18.49, Ocarolans Road,
Newcastle BAGS, 19.01, Clips Ruby, 6
Sheffield BAGS, 19.11, Inca
Sheffield BAGS, 19.27, Paramount Bev, 6
Hove BAGS, 19.53,
Monkspath Kiki, 5
Sheffield BAGS, 19.58, Bunny Face, 5
20.14, Stepaside Swift, 1
Hove BAGS, 21.12, Raithby Roger, 2
BAGS, 21.17, Magna Fortune, 2
Newcastle BAGS, 21.22, Commander Jack,
Download the session.xml here (normally available by 10am
Normal daily settings.
Stop Win: 2.00
Stop Loss: 16.00
running loss -20.00
I set the
Grey Horse bot price range from 1 -7.
9. Millionaire's Row - Win
Selections started 13/11/2006
This is a win system (test) that me
and a friend have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him
select every morning so although we created the system together he is the one
really refining it.
Click Here to see the results so far.
You can now get
these selections Saturday by signing up here:
Yesterday: (5h April)
4.35 Weth: Brave Rebellion 1st
1/3 / Lord Collingwood 2nd 9/1
Daily Back Nap:
4.35 Weth: Brave Rebellion 1st 1/3
Daily Lay Nap (stared 25/02/2007)
Points - 20.92
Double Take (started 22/03/2007) (£6.00 on the lay £4.00 on
Winnings to date =
Millionaire Double Selection.
14.10 Exet: Millennium Accord EP 3.15
/Nodforms Victoria EP 2.5
Millionaire Daily Nap
Millionaire Daily Lay
We are not happy with this System so
are stopping it until improvements can be made.
Take: 40pts Win /60pts Lay 2nd Favourite
No Qualifyer today.
The idea is to to back the favourite and lay
the second best priced horse before the off.
We are hoping that most of the
time the lay should not change but if it does then it is always the best priced
horse (lay side) after the favourite.
Our stake will be £10 split
4.00 on the back and 6.00 on the lay. Of course you could do this how you want
but we suggest you put slightly more on the lay to cover any loses on the back
bet because we feel the lay will lose far less often.
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