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18th January 2007

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

Taunton and Thurles have been cancelled this morning because of the bad weather so a little less racing today.

John's Bulletins (10) won on both selections that were within the price range, so if we would have carried on the staking plan we would have been OK, but we are still testing so it is best to be careful.

The Greyhound System (8) has been a little up and down of late so yesterday I split out the (*) selections on to a separate page which you can see here:

As the selections stand they have about an 80% success rate as lay's and if we take all the selections then we lose once every 5.

There have been some quite close losing runs and our worst so far is 3 in a row, with the longest winning run being 12.

So the question I would like to ask is that could this be a viable lay system?

There are some questions we will need to ask before we make the final decision.

1. What would be the maximum lay odds we should take and how would this effect the results?

2. By adjusting the odds could we make this a level stake system?

3. Could we use a staking system to make it profitable and if so what should we use?

4. Could we adjust the odds to make it a back system?

Many of the prices for these selections will be on the screen shots I have been recording on the main Greyhound System results page here:

Anyway what I want to do is give you the chance to give your opinion on whether you think it could be a workable system.

Now you are going to need an incentive of course so I will need to come up with a prize for the person who comes up with the best working idea which we can be tested over a couple of weeks.

I will also want to here from people who think there is no chance of making it pay and their reasons why and I will think up a prize for the best one of these also.

The amount of people who send me their ideas will help dictate my choice of prizes so please have a go, this is how we learn by taking ideas and working out if we can make a profit.

So please email and let me know your thoughts.

By the way don't expect a holiday or car as the prize, we are talking a subscription to one of my bots or an ebook or if there are enough entries I even have a copy of the Racing Cash Machine that I don't need anymore.

So come on send me an email.

2. Guest Selection - started 23-10-2006
These are lay test selections from Thomas.
NO BET if odds above 9.00 at Betfair

Wednesday's (17 Jan 2007)
Newb 1510 - Jacksons Pier - 3rd - SP 11/2 - Betfair 7.6 - WON
Ling 1530 - Lady Bahia - 8th - SP 16/1 - Betfair 26.0 - no bet

Here are today's (18 Jan 2007)
Ludl 1310 - Lady Roisin

Thomas is recording all Betfair prices 30 sec before the off.

3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9.
Points since we started + 5.22

13.45 Newcastle, Rogues Gallery, 2.30 (3 places) 2nd

13.40 Ludlow, Mange Tout, 3.2 (3 places)

4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal: 16:05, Lingfield, Rapid City 1st 4/7
Pts 2007: - 0.44
Top Choice: 13:00, Newbury, Pancake 1st 1/4
Pts 2007: - 0.97

Normal: 15:00, Wolverhampton, Tilapia
Top Choice: 14:20, Taunton, Wyldello

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Yesterday: 14.15 Newcastle, Baffling Secret 4th 9/4

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8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System started 07/11/2006.

After playing around with selections I have decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I think I have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I suspect there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what that will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort to record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks (*) are from the original and tighter system, I am not using these now.
You can see all the results since the 14th (when I introduced the latest selection method) here. I am now using what I call the "rule of 3", this means we go for 3 wins and use a 3 race scratch back to get back any losses.

Hall Green BAGS, 11.03, Minted Euro, 2 3rd 9/2
Hall Green BAGS, 11.19, Blue Adele, Trap 2 3rd 5/1
Newcastle BAGS, 12.58, Jokers Angel, Trap 2 2nd 5/4
Hall Green BAGS, 13.04, Keljo Marishka, Trap 4(*) 3rd 5/4
Perry Barr BAGS, 14.57, Blackbush Lena, Trap 4 3rd 4/1
Hove BAGS, 15.28, Nottonighttom, Trap 3 4th 7/1

Here are today's.
Sunderland BAGS, 11.19, Sistova, Trap 3
Sunderland BAGS, 12.18, Foxley, Trap 3
Sheffield BAGS, 12.27, Ballysheedy Cole, Trap 3
Sunderland BAGS, 13.04, Mill Reef, Trap 1(*)
Sunderland BAGS, 13.19, Bedside Manners, Trap 2
Sheffield BAGS, 13.27, Get Home, Trap 2
Sunderland BAGS, 13.51, Firm Test, Trap 4
Sheffield BAGS, 14.03, Everilgate Pete, Trap 6(*)
Romford BAGS, 15.28, Georges Delight, Trap 1
Crayford BAGS, 15.58, Poor Flo, Trap 3(*)
Crayford BAGS, 16.18, Almost Jazzy, Trap 4
Crayford BAGS, 17.17, Snowey Jane, Trap 1(*)
Romford BAGS, 17.44, Debidee Queen, Trap 4(*)
Romford BAGS, 17.58, Randals Dan, Trap 6
Crayford BAGS, 18.04, Fantasy Boy, Trap 5(*)
7 (*) selections today leaving 9 normal. I think today I am only going for the equivelent of 2 wins.

Normal daily settings.
Stake 2.00
Stop Win: 2.00 x 3 = 6.00 (take it down to 5.57)
Stop Loss: 2.00 x 25 = 50.00
running loss - 93.57
Screen Shot of settings.

I set the Grey Horse bot price range from 1 -7.

9. Millionaire's Row - Win Selections started 13/11/2006

This is a win system (test) that me and a friend have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him select every morning so although we created the system together he is the one really refining it. Click Here to see the results so far.

Points + 9.40
I am using 1pt on each selection for the points total.

13.00 Newbury, Pancake 1st 1/4 /Risk Runner 2nd 7/2
Risk Runner 5.44 £2.50
I got it wrong yesterday when I decided to just go for the outsider, should have just gone for the favourite (my friend laughed!)
Profit = - £3.80

Daily nap (stared 15/02/2007)
Daily Back Nap: 16.05 Lingfield, Rapid City (early price 1.59) 1st 4/7
Sp odds were about the same as Betfairs early price.
Points + 3.32

Today: 15.00 Wolverhampton, Tilapia/Conrade Cotton
I know I will actually loose some money if Tilapia comes in but I decided I would put 2.50 on each selection. If Conrade Cotton comes in then it will be a nice payday.
Tilapia 1.42 £2.50
Calloff The Search 6.2 £2.50
Although Considering the back nap is Tilapia as well, maybe that was a mistake!

Daily Back Nap: 15.00 Wolverhampton, Tilapia

I will put a screenshot of my test betfair account up at the end of every week.

10. John's Bullitin lay tips - Lay Selections started 12/01/2007

These are New selections from John at Luv2Lose. John takes the prices of the selections 30 seconds before the race and the lay price must be between 2.1 and 3.9, at this time to qualify. The idea here is to Stop at the first winner (or loser in this case as we are laying).
John also has a couple of other staking ideas which I will tell you about later.

(first price morning odds, second SP):
Newcastle 12.40 TOPAZ LADY - 3.95 - 5.0 - not placed
Newcastle 14.15 BAFFLING SECRET - 3.2 - 3.25 - not placed
Newcastle 14.50 WINDS SUPREME - 3.35 - 3.25 - not placed
Newbury 15.40 BANNOW STRAND - 3.55 - 7.0 - not placed
Two wins within the odds range yesterday
Bot Screen shot.

Ludlow 13.10 CRIMOND
Thurles 13.15 MAJOR FINNEGAN
Wolverhampton 13.30 PRIMARILY
Thurles 13.45 CLENI BOY
Wolverhampton 15.30 PRICEOFLOVE
Taunton 15.50 DEBUT

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