18th January 2007
Taunton and Thurles have been cancelled this morning
because of the bad weather so a little less racing today.
Bulletins (10) won on both selections that were within the price range, so if
we would have carried on the staking plan we would have been OK, but we are
still testing so it is best to be careful.
The Greyhound System (8) has
been a little up and down of late so yesterday I split out the (*) selections
on to a separate page which you can see here:
the selections stand they have about an 80% success rate as lay's and if we
take all the selections then we lose once every 5.
There have been some
quite close losing runs and our worst so far is 3 in a row, with the longest
winning run being 12.
So the question I would like to ask is that could
this be a viable lay system?
There are some questions we will need to
ask before we make the final decision.
1. What would be the maximum lay
odds we should take and how would this effect the results?
adjusting the odds could we make this a level stake system?
3. Could we
use a staking system to make it profitable and if so what should we
4. Could we adjust the odds to make it a back system?
of the prices for these selections will be on the screen shots I have been
recording on the main Greyhound System results page here:
what I want to do is give you the chance to give your opinion on whether you
think it could be a workable system.
Now you are going to need an
incentive of course so I will need to come up with a prize for the person who
comes up with the best working idea which we can be tested over a couple of
I will also want to here from people who think there is no chance
of making it pay and their reasons why and I will think up a prize for the best
one of these also.
The amount of people who send me their ideas will
help dictate my choice of prizes so please have a go, this is how we learn by
taking ideas and working out if we can make a profit.
So please email
and let me know your thoughts.
By the way don't expect a holiday or car
as the prize, we are talking a subscription to one of my bots or an ebook or if
there are enough entries I even have a copy of the Racing Cash Machine that I don't need anymore.
come on send me an email.
2. Guest Selection - started 23-10-2006
These are lay test
selections from Thomas.
NO BET if odds above 9.00 at Betfair
Wednesday's (17 Jan 2007)
Newb 1510 - Jacksons Pier - 3rd - SP 11/2 -
Betfair 7.6 - WON
Ling 1530 - Lady Bahia - 8th - SP 16/1 - Betfair 26.0 -
Here are today's (18 Jan 2007)
Ludl 1310 - Lady Roisin
Thomas is recording all Betfair prices 30 sec before the off.
3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a
Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far
here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9.
Points since we started + 5.22
13.45 Newcastle, Rogues
Gallery, 2.30 (3 places) 2nd
13.40 Ludlow, Mange Tout, 3.2
4. Miracle System (win Bet)
16:05, Lingfield, Rapid City 1st 4/7
Pts 2007: - 0.44
Top Choice: 13:00,
Newbury, Pancake 1st 1/4
Pts 2007: - 0.97
Top Choice: 14:20, Taunton, Wyldello
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6. "Best Lay of the
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Yesterday: 14.15 Newcastle, Baffling Secret
Today: 15.10 Ludlow, Penny Park
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8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System
After playing around with selections I have
decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I think I
have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I suspect
there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what that
will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort to
record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks (*) are
from the original and tighter system, I am not using these now.
You can see
all the results since the 14th (when I introduced the latest selection method)
here. I am now using what I call the "rule of 3", this means
we go for 3 wins and use a 3 race scratch back to get back any
Hall Green BAGS, 11.03, Minted Euro, 2 3rd
Hall Green BAGS, 11.19, Blue Adele, Trap 2 3rd 5/1
12.58, Jokers Angel, Trap 2 2nd 5/4
Hall Green BAGS, 13.04, Keljo Marishka,
Trap 4(*) 3rd 5/4
Perry Barr BAGS, 14.57, Blackbush Lena, Trap 4 3rd
Hove BAGS, 15.28, Nottonighttom, Trap 3 4th 7/1
Sunderland BAGS, 11.19, Sistova, Trap 3
12.18, Foxley, Trap 3
Sheffield BAGS, 12.27, Ballysheedy Cole, Trap 3
Sunderland BAGS, 13.04, Mill Reef, Trap 1(*)
Sunderland BAGS, 13.19,
Bedside Manners, Trap 2
Sheffield BAGS, 13.27, Get Home, Trap 2
Sunderland BAGS, 13.51, Firm Test, Trap 4
Sheffield BAGS, 14.03, Everilgate
Pete, Trap 6(*)
Romford BAGS, 15.28, Georges Delight, Trap 1
BAGS, 15.58, Poor Flo, Trap 3(*)
Crayford BAGS, 16.18, Almost Jazzy, Trap
Crayford BAGS, 17.17, Snowey Jane, Trap 1(*)
Romford BAGS, 17.44,
Debidee Queen, Trap 4(*)
Romford BAGS, 17.58, Randals Dan, Trap 6
Crayford BAGS, 18.04, Fantasy Boy, Trap 5(*)
7 (*) selections today leaving
9 normal. I think today I am only going for the equivelent of 2 wins.
Normal daily settings.
Stop Win: 2.00 x 3 = 6.00 (take
it down to 5.57)
Stop Loss: 2.00 x 25 = 50.00
running loss - 93.57
Screen Shot of settings.
I set the
Horse bot price range from 1 -7.
9. Millionaire's Row - Win Selections
This is a win system (test) that me and a friend
have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him select every
morning so although we created the system together he is the one really
Click Here to see the results so far.
I am using 1pt on each selection for the points total.
13.00 Newbury, Pancake 1st 1/4 /Risk Runner 2nd
Risk Runner 5.44 £2.50
I got it wrong yesterday when I decided
to just go for the outsider, should have just gone for the favourite (my friend
Profit = - £3.80
Daily nap (stared
Daily Back Nap: 16.05 Lingfield, Rapid City (early price 1.59)
Sp odds were about the same as Betfairs early price.
Today: 15.00 Wolverhampton, Tilapia/Conrade Cotton
I know I will
actually loose some money if Tilapia comes in but I decided I would put 2.50 on
each selection. If Conrade Cotton comes in then it will be a nice
Tilapia 1.42 £2.50
Calloff The Search 6.2 £2.50
Although Considering the back nap is Tilapia as well, maybe that was a
Daily Back Nap: 15.00 Wolverhampton, Tilapia
I will put
a screenshot of my test betfair account up at the end of every week.
10. John's Bullitin lay tips - Lay
Selections started 12/01/2007
These are New selections from John at
Luv2Lose. John takes the prices of the selections 30 seconds before the race
and the lay price must be between 2.1 and 3.9, at this time to qualify. The
idea here is to Stop at the first winner (or loser in this case as we are
John also has a couple of other staking ideas which I will tell you
(first price morning odds,
Newcastle 12.40 TOPAZ LADY - 3.95 - 5.0 - not placed
Newcastle 14.15 BAFFLING SECRET - 3.2 - 3.25 - not placed
WINDS SUPREME - 3.35 - 3.25 - not placed
Newbury 15.40 BANNOW STRAND - 3.55
- 7.0 - not placed
Two wins within the odds range yesterday
Ludlow 13.10 CRIMOND
Thurles 13.15 MAJOR FINNEGAN
Wolverhampton 13.30 PRIMARILY
13.45 CLENI BOY
Ludlow 14.40 HIGHLAND GAMES
Taunton 15.50 DEBUT
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