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28th March 2007

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

I think we need to discuss the Greyhound Selections(8) because the "Rule of 3" is just not working at the moment. The last couple of weeks have seen some pretty bad days which is certainly not in character with the 1000 previous selections.

The stop at the first winner is doing a lot better and it is certainly the one I prefer to run. One thought I have had but not checked it yet is maybe if you are going to use the "rule of 3" is if the first loser comes in the first 3 selection then stop. I know this will mean some days you will lose but I wonder if we have enough clear days to override the days when you have had to stop.

If you consider that some days you will lose on the second or third selection your losses would not be that great, so it will be easier to make up. I think it is worth considering. Myself I am going to carry on stopping at the first win.

We seem to still be doing well on the place, my only concern will be a long losing run but my stop loss is set to £23.0 so it shouldn't be to bad. We have certainly had a good winning streak so far.
3 place races only (bet on favourite off) between 2.00 and 3.00 Please note that I use the staking plan set to 1 for these selections.

I see plenty of you are downloading Ultratrader. Betfair have updated their API again so the bot should be a lot more stable now although I have had one copy running for 5 solid days now without any interruption.

Actually what I find interesting is all the ideas you have about different ways to bet with Ultratrader from just betting on one particular had at a given price to much more complex scenario's.

I have been betting on the Games market almost since day 1 so I have had a lot of experience, here are some of my findings.

1. Don't just pick one hand at the start and continually bet on it. I have seen one hand lose over 25 times in a row and I have seen the same hand then win 5 times. So laying or backing just doesn't seem to work.

2. Odds ranges are very important and if you are going for a system that will give you a bet every round then you are more than likely going to lose.

3. Beware of hands like the worst after the turn, it's worth looking at but you can bet that it will turn around and bite you now and then.

4. Play around with backing or laying the best priced hand on the turn, but you will have to build up some rules and a narrow price range

Just a few hints.

2. Guest Selection - started 23-10-2006
These are lay test selections from Thomas.
NO BET if odds above 9.00 at Betfair

Tuesday (27 Mar 2007)
Lay (HiPro86)
Wolv 1400 - CharlotteButterfly - 7th - SP 8/1 - Betfair 12.0 - no bet
Sedg 1450 - Frankincense - 1st - SP 12/1 - Betfair 17.0 - no bet
Wolv 1600 - Flashing Floozie - 5th - SP 16/1 - Betfair 24.0 - no bet

Wolv 1430 - Fulvio - 7th - SP 6/1 - Betfair 8.60/2.72 - lost -3
Wolv 1630 - Blackmail - 10th - SP 12/1 - Betfair 18.50/4.50 - lost -3
Ling 1640 - Dower House - 1st - SP 3/1 - Betfair 4.30/2.08 - WON +5.46

Here are todays (28 Mar 2007)
Lay (HiPro86) - No bet if odds are higher than 9.00 on Betfair
Towc 1430 - Abit Irish
Sout 1445 - Scaramoushca
Sout 1655 - Earthling

Here are todays (27 Mar 2007) WIN/PLACE selections. 1 pt to WIN and 2 pts to PLACE
Kemp 1705 - Spring Margot
Towc 1715 - Sonevafusi

The concept is to always place 1 point to WIN and 2 points to PLACE on the same horse. So, there is a risk of always 3 points if the horse does not place at least.

Thomas is recording all Betfair prices 30 sec before the off.

3. Place System (win Bet) - Started 20-11-2006
This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 15.00

Sorry No Selections

16.35 Kempton, Marfinca, EP 2.00

4. Miracle System (win Bet)
Normal: 14:20, Sedgefield, Andre Chenier 1st 5/4
Pts 2007: - 1.29
Top Choice: 15:00, Wolverhampton, Gower 1st 1/5
Pts 2007: - 1.73

Normal: 14:20, Kempton, Enlightenment
Top Choice: 16:10, Towcester, Seafield Bogie
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15.50 Sedgefield, Reasonably Sure 3rd 5/2

Today:   15.05 Towcester, Hurlers Cross

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Comments for today: I fancy the lighty-weighted Poppy Maroon to take this from our top weight.

Nap (Lay)
Selection 1: Kempton 15:25 BE TELLING

Staking: We use 1% of our bank.

Luv 2 Lose

8. Greyhound Selections- Lay System started 07/11/2006.

After playing around with selections I have decided that for the time being this is going to be a lay only test. I think I have worked out a system that will give us quite good prices but I suspect there will have to be a maximum lay price set. I am just not sure what that will be but I am testing between 2.00 and 7.00. I will make every effort to record betfair lay prices as well. The ones marked with an asterisks (*) are from the original and tighter system, I am not using these now.
You can see all the results since the 14th (when I introduced the latest selection method) here. I am now using what I call the "rule of 3", this means we go for 3 wins and use a 3 race scratch back to get back any losses.

Nottingham BAGS, 11.03, Bodell Noddy, Trap 3 4th 9/4
Nottingham BAGS, 11.48, Ahavoher Helen, Trap 4 4th 3/1
Perry Barr BAGS, 11.57, Blonde King, Trap 6(*) 6th 7/1
Perry Barr BAGS, 12.42, Killinan Snappy, Trap 1 1st 7/2 - LOST
Nottingham BAGS, 12.47, Salacres Bell, Trap 2(*) 2d 5/2
Perry Barr BAGS, 13.12, Gleaming Emily, Trap 1 1st 2/1 - LOST
Nottingham BAGS, 13.33, Romeokee, Trap 1(*) 1st 2/1 - LOST
Perry Barr BAGS, 13.44, Coolratty Breeze, Trap 4 2nd 4/1
Perry Barr BAGS, 14.03, Nans Blackbird, Trap 3 4th 11/4
Crayford BAGS, 14.08, Annies Bird, Trap 1 1st 7/2 - LOST
Crayford BAGS, 14.27, Bibs Rebel, Trap 1 1st 3/1 - LOST
Crayford BAGS, 14.47, King Of Tunes, Trap 4 1st 7/2 - LOST
Crayford BAGS, 15.07, Harlequin Buddy, Trap 5 2nd 4/1
Crayford BAGS, 15.28, Charity Rebel, Trap 6 5th 4/1
Sunderland BAGS, 15.38, Hillcross Legend, Trap 4 5th 5/2
Sunderland BAGS, 15.58, Allowdale Rocket, Trap 5(*) 5th 5/2
Sunderland BAGS, 16.18, Brewster Tiger, Trap 3 4th 5/1
Sunderland BAGS, 16.37, Magentars Safron, Trap 5 5th 7/2
Crayford BAGS, 16.48, Shankly Spirit, Trap 4 4th 3/1
Sunderland BAGS, 17.17, Economy Drive, Trap 5 6th 4/1
Crayford BAGS, 17.27, Newlawn Sooty, Trap 2 6th 3/1
Sunderland BAGS, 17.48, Raparee Bill, Trap 5  1st 4/1 - LOST
Crayford BAGS, 17.58, Pishiobury Hart, Trap 4(*) 1st 3/1 - LOST
Sunderland BAGS, 18.04, Magentars Krisy, Trap 3 3rd 5/1
24 selections 8 lost (screen shot)

Here are today's.
Hall Green BAGS, 11.03, Carnival Rock, Trap 3(*)
Newcastle BAGS, 11.57, Stay Blue, Trap 3
Newcastle BAGS, 12.12, Pilgrims Silver, Trap 5
Newcastle BAGS, 12.27, Cooladerry Mike, Trap 2(*)
Newcastle BAGS, 13.12, Energy Crisis, Trap 1
Hall Green BAGS, 13.19, Kis Focus, Trap 1(*)
Newcastle BAGS, 13.27, Frenchs Lass, Trap 1
Newcastle BAGS, 13.44, Liberal Prince, Trap 3
Hove BAGS, 14.27, Tinas Lass, Trap 3
Hove BAGS, 15.28, Tragumna Rebel, Trap 1
Hove BAGS, 15.48, Kefcar Ruby, Trap 5
Hove BAGS, 17.27, Black Precious, Trap 2
Oxford BAGS, 17.48, Knockanae Slippy, Trap 4
Oxford BAGS, 18.18, Tasty Flight, Trap 5

Download the session.xml here (normally available by 10am mon-Fri)

Normal daily settings.
Stake 2.00
Stop Win: 2.00 x 3 = 6.00 (take it down to 5.57)
Stop Loss: 2.00 x 25 = 50.00
running loss -72.00
Screen Shot of settings.

I set the Grey Horse bot price range from 1 -7.

9. Millionaire's Row - Win Selections started 13/11/2006

This is a win system (test) that me and a friend have been working on for some time. Just so you know I let him select every morning so although we created the system together he is the one really refining it. Click Here to see the results so far.
You can now get these selections Saturday by signing up here:

Daily Double
14.20 Plum: Lester Leaps In EP 2.28 1st 11/8 / Prince Ary EP 3.95 4th 13/8
Points -2.22

Daily Back Nap: (stared 15/02/2007)
16.50 Plum: Clearly in Motion EP 2.66 1st 8/13
Points -1.60

Daily Lay Nap (stared 25/02/2007)
15.40 Kemp: Chalice Welcome EP 10.00 4th 9/2
Points - 14.6

Double Take (started 22/03/2007) (£6.00 on the lay £4.00 on the back)
Back = No Selection
Lay = No Selection

Winnings to date = £9.12

Millionaire Double Selection.
No selections again until Monday

Millionaire Daily Nap
No selections again until Monday

Millionaire Daily Lay
No selections again until Monday

We suggest this tip will be a no bet if over 7.0 on the exchanges.

Millionaire Double Take: 40pts Win /60pts Lay 2nd Favourite
No selections again until Monday

The idea is to to back the favourite and lay the second best priced horse before the off.
We are hoping that most of the time the lay should not change but if it does then it is always the best priced horse (lay side) after the favourite.
Our stake will be £10 split 4.00 on the back and 6.00 on the lay. Of course you could do this how you want but we suggest you put slightly more on the lay to cover any loses on the back.

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Have a good days racing.


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