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15th April 2008

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

I have been meaning to tell you that David and I have been working a little harder on the "New Lay Test" system and we feel like we have made some steps to improve it further.

We admit couldn't get rid of the loser earlier this month but I was correct David had got the first selection wrong, so we have made changes to stop that happening again.

David has put two sets of results up at his site. One for all the lays (Lay 4 Profit) and one for stopping at the first winner/loser (Lay for Profit).

By the way the names are his idea!

At the moment it is a slow crawl to get back our loses using my staking plan and I said last week I am not sure it is the best idea now, but we will see how it goes.

We had a good day on the Greyhound lay test yesterday and I am going to play around with a new idea today, using the new excel feature that it is in the beta version of GHB.

I have an idea for staking when laying the greyhound favourites so I want to try it out for a few days, to see how it performs. I will probably run it over a lot of racers so I can get as much data as possible.

Anyway I will keep you informed on how that goes.

New Lay Test

3.50 Wolv: Idesia 3rd 11/1 (we got 22)

4.50 Nott: Coin of the Realm EP 26

Pot 2 now stands at £-166.77 (Target £70.00)
New Greyhound Lay system I had come up with.

After some thought I think that the only way to run this system is as a "Stop in Profit". I am going to keep the maximum odds set to 6.00 and I am going to be a little naughty and add in a lay ladder staking plan.

Easy day again yesterday

I will start showing all selections now but please remember that some of the late races may not appear on Betfair.
11:28, Sheff, Precocious Stock
11:57, Sheff, Stella Star
12:47, Swin, Barraduff Gina
14:37, Wstow, Sirdar
14:57, Wstow, Paul The Butcher
15:07, Monm, Today Is Myday
17:38, Monm, Mos Elf
19:16, Nott, Whitewater Shawn
19:27, Romfd, Walk The Line
19:58, Romfd, Vieris Surprise
20:19, Nott, Gold Savings
20:47, Romfd, Pharaoh Diver
21:07, Nott, Knocklayde Comet
21:07, Nott, Planet World
21:22, Nott, On His Way
21:.4, Nott, Tyrur Ruby
21:45, Romfd, Drumena Cloud
22:15, Nott, Farloe Issue

I stopped the bot 1 selection earlier because I wanted to shut the machine down for the weekend.

Here are today's
11:19, Nott, Threeinabed
14:08, Crayfd, Southeast Zero
15:07, Crayfd, Sailbythestars
15:58, Sund, Kiel Major
16:47, Crayfd, Shes Some Class
16:57, Sund, Durham Lady
17:56, Crayfd, Crossfield Okee
18:04, Sund, Oklahoma Timmy
18:04, Sund, Sir Knight
18:56, Sheff, Rooster Revenge
19:06, Hove, Wigwam Woman
19:11, Sheff, Miss Mandy
19:37, Hove, Beat The Bullet
19:53, Hove, Humming Heiress
20:14, Sheff, Alchemist Wish
20:19, Newc, Dornans Rocket
20:24, Hove, Blakes King
20:36, Newc, Geordie Tom
20:57, Hove, Ballytag Rose
21:22, Newc, All Jazzed Up
21:33, Sheff, Clash Fizz
21:.4, Newc, Bold Willy Allen
22:23, Sheff, Kirstys Pie
22:23, Sheff, Pillow Powder

Please remember this is a new test and there are no rules yet.

Guest Selection
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Gray's Lay's

Selection 1: nottingham 2.50 garlogs**
Selection 2: 4.20 sky dive**
Selection 3: 5.20 trouble mountain*
Selection 4: warwick 4.30 moheeb*
Selection 5: 5.00 calistos quest*

Staking: The rule of the 321 staking plan is subjected to the price of the horses odds on betfair or other exchanges that allow you to lay a horse.

Odds 0-to 6.0 lay 3pts
6.1 to 10/1 lay 2pts
10.1 to 14 lay 1pt

Gray's Lay's

Malcolm's Selections
Best Lay of the Day
No Selection

Today: 16.30 War, Moheebb

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Place System: Started 20-11-2006

This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 71.24
Points new system (30/07/07) + 29.10

16:00, Windsor, Silver Prelude EP 3.75 6th
16:50, Wolverhampton, Ermine Grey EP 2.02 5th

14:30, Warwick, Fuaigh Mor EP 2.84 (*)
15:00, Warwick, Right Price, EP 3.0 (*)
16:30, Warwick, Cheshire Prince, EP 2.06 (*)

(*) No bet under new system idea


Back test system
Started 13/12/2007. We orginally tested this as a "lay" system but I felt the results were better suited to a "Back" system and so that is how we are now testing it.
£10 stakes.

Level Stakes
£29.12 (after 5% commision) Started 25/01/2008
Using a staking plan similar to CashMaster, started 11/3/2008 after a win on the 10/11/2008.
Bank(staking plan) + £31.91 (staking loss this cycle £6.02)
15:50, Wolv, Wood Chorus EP 2.66 (Staking stake £6.02) 2nd 4/5

16:20, Nott, Jaser EP 2.38
Remember this is just a test and we are paper testing laying these selections.

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