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18th June 2008

Todays ramblings
Good Morning.

Guest Selections (back4profit) and staking plan yesterday. As you know I was a little worried but again these selections found the winner and added well over 10% back into the bank. Next week I am going to start having a look at using the bookies for dutching as well. I am going to open an account from someone who is giving a free bet and see if we can take their money from the start.

Someone like Paddy Power will do nicely!

Also another win for the lay selection as well and although it wasn't a large amount it all helps to grow the bank. The EP was quite high in the morning but it did drop down to 9.6 for quite a while. I didn't see it before the off but guessing by the SP (14/1) it must have gone out near the off.

Don't forget to sign up for the selections so you don't miss Saturday's.

I have a meeting first thing so I will leave you with Darren.

Darren from the betting School

Race Ratings

Some of the most successful bettors I know credit their success to the use of ratings. Mostly they create their own ratings but they all started out using the ratings from their daily newspaper.

Some started out with the Racing Post but many used the ratings from The Sun or The Mail or another daily newspaper.

The secret to success with ratings is to convert them into a chance for each horse this will be a percentage chance of each horse winning the race and these chances when all added together should of course equal 100%. Because one of the horses in the race will definitely be the winner.

Once they have given a percentage chance to each horse they then convert this into odds and then they look for value. This is the important bit. It doesn't matter whether they back or lay their selection just as long as the odds they get are value.

So for example if you have calculated that the favourite has a 50% chance of winning the race (even money 2.00) then if you can back it at 6/4 (2.5) then that is a value bet. But if you can lay it at 4/6 (1.66) then that is value to, either way you have the same advantage.

That is the biggest secret to success if you can consistently get value bets it doesn't matter which way the individual bet goes (as long as you are funded for the inevitable winning and losing sequences). Over the long term you will win!

Darren Power is the Editor of the Betting School Insiders Report which is dedicated to helping you to profit from your betting. You can register for a free sample copy of the report at:

New Greyhound Lay system I had come up with.

After some thought I think that the only way to run this system is as a "Stop in Profit". I am going to keep the maximum odds set to 6.00 and I am going to be a little naughty and add in a lay ladder staking plan.
If you are a subscriber to GHB I am going to start putting the session file up for you (mon to fri)
The settings in this session file are odds 1 to 6.00 and 0.10 stake so you may want to use your own stake settings, which you should do anyway because I could make a mistake!
All Screen shots.

11:34, Nott, Beechwood Vieri
12:18, Nott, Maid Of Orleans
12:58, PBarr, Dalcash Bond
13:44, PBarr, Sheepwalk Foyle
14:12, Sund, Waycross Firefly
14:47, Sund, Jubilee Day
15:53, Crayfd, Yak Yak Blueboy
16:11, Crayfd, Hollyoak Branch
16:37, Sund, Highbury Nell
17:09, Sund, Rainham Lady
17:09, Sund, Linton Best Man
17:09, Sund, Media Mia
17:22, Crayfd, Lordsbury Nueve
17:58, Crayfd, Newlawn Grainne
17:58, Crayfd, Reenview Daisy
18:08, Sund, Bua Nancy
18:18, Crayfd, Centaur Clare
18:18, Crayfd, Hollyoak Syrah
19:06, Newc, Bigwood Saphire
19:11, Sheff, Maglass Lass
19:26, Sheff, Morgans Woody
20:13, Sheff, Gaj The Legend
20:37, Newc, Come Back Here
20:51, Newc, Falkan Boy
21:37, Newc, Catunda Pheobe
21:52, Newc, Pick Me
22:23, Sheff, Jonagold
I need to remember to put my stop loss up as my stakes go up.

11:03, HGrn, Dizzy Tantrum
11:11, Newc, Huilio Harlequin
11:19, HGrn, Cong Beauty
12:18, HGrn, Stouke Ciara
12:42, Newc, Whistling Tasha
15:55, BVue, Oxies Black
16:14, BVue, Take Issue
16:.2, Hove, Finlays Pirate
19:11, Sund, Scala Berry
19:22, Swin, Tropical Fantasy
20:13, Sund, Inishowen Blue
20:58, Sund, Anfi Deuce
21:14, Sund, Tri Full
21:14, Sund, Playboy Madam
21:.3, Sund, Lagganmore Jen
21:55, Swin, Thai Orchid
21:55, Swin, Severn Bluejeans

Please remember this is a new test (well not that new!) and there are no rules yet, in fact the only rule I can think of is maybe miss races where there are two selections.

Guest Selection (back 4 profit)

This is a new back test.

I am not sure about NR's, the favourite does tend to win most of the time, with the second favourite about a 3rd of the time so it could be worth backing the the second if the favourite is a NR. If the second favourite is a NR then you can take the next runner in the betting.
Current bank: £65.41

2.50 Thir
Motor Home EP 3.15 1st 7/2
El Guevara EP 15.00 10th 14.1
Maybe I shouldn't of doubted the system! What a great win I made about £8.50 after commision.

2.10 Ham
Reve de Soleil EP 1.85
Noble Storm EP 5.9
I am now using 10% of my bank as liability and dutching the selections.

New Lay Test (lay 4 Profit)
I am just taking £5.00 and dividing it by the odds to get my stake.

9.00 Yar: Rossini Byline EP 13.5 (I managed to get 9.6 in the end) 7th 14/1

8.15 Kemp Kinout EP 9.8
I am now using 10% of my bank as liability.

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Gray's Lay's

Comments for today: Again 2 horses today 1/2 point on each. 2055 Ripon HITS ONLY VIV and 2115 Kempton CHA CHA CHA.
Good Luck Graham and Brian

Selection 1: 2055 Ripon Hits only Vic .5
Selection 2: 2115 Kempton Cha Cha Cha 0.5

Gray's Lay's

Malcolm's Selections

Best Lay of the Day
17.10 Thir, My Gacho 7th 2/1

Today: No Nap today.

Please Note: The lay betting system is actually 4 systems in 1 and I will choose one of the selections for this tip.

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Place System: Started 20-11-2006

This is a Betting Exchange only place system, you can see the results so far here. Prices are a snapshot from the morning between 8 -9. 3 Place 8 runner races only.
Points since we started + 65.04
Points new system (30/07/07) +25.37

No Selections

14:10, Hamilton, Jobekani EP 2.06
16:00, Hamilton, Luloah EP 2.00
20:15, Kempton, Wynberg EP 2.32

(*) No bet under new system idea


Back test system
Started 13/12/2007. We orginally tested this as a "lay" system but I felt the results were better suited to a "Back" system and so that is how we are now testing it.
£10 stakes.

Level Stakes
£-8.20(after 5% commision) Started 25/01/2008
Using a staking plan similar to CashMaster, started 11/3/2008 after a win on the 10/3/2008.
Bank(staking plan) + £61.36 (staking running loss 10.00 )
15:05, Asct, Fleeting Spirit EP 3.15 3rd 15/8

15:45, Asct, Duke Of Marmalade EP 2.54 (staking stake 3.94)

Remember this is just a test and we are paper testing laying these selections.

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